Draconic Summit Autumn 2022

I forgot the general adult chat was here, lmao

12:19 am

offers margariti (edited)

12:19 am

Is a mix of a margarita and a martini

sips rum and coke

Do rum and coke go together well? lookbean

its a common drink

Ah, fair!

i'm partial to sprite and UV Blue but lol

Rum and coke is my second fave drink, especially with Malibu coconut rum dinoheart

12:27 am

Frozen hot chocolate with Bailey's Irish Cream is the first fav tho!

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im not a big alcohol person. but theres an irish bar that is hard for us to get out do that does a spiked hot chocolate--LOL

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Rum and coke gets me wasted real fast XD

uchak wanting to watch this bartender's crazy cocktails has me wanting a drink e_e

I have blueberry wine so that's my drink tonight

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i accidentally dropped my whole, unopened mead bottle couple weeks ago and i'm still pissed

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I have raspberry lemonade cider sparkle_sparkle

River Ransom

i accidentally dropped my whole, unopened mead bottle couple weeks ago and i'm still pissed

D:

i love mead, it's so good

Not the mead!!!!

it was RASPBERRY mead

NOOOO

12:50 am

omg ;;

2:48 am

I've never had good mead before, only had chaucer's in the area which is a bit bland

2:49 am

but omg, raspberry ~_~

i live in booze country, so we have lots of liquor stores including specialty ones. even then, i found only two meads in my local liquor store, and my FiL special ordered from his local liquor store for my wedding. it's possible to find, but difficult

Oh lord

2:55 am

Mead is one of those wines that isnt always easy to find

2:55 am

I often find that one brand with the ceramic bottles with the norse name

i've bounced around the idea of making my own, but,,,, that sounds scary lol (edited)

I would also try that I know I saw a tutorial on tumble

it doesnt sound hard, but it also sounds like it can go terribly wrong if something does happen

I mean that's how it is with fermentation

thats why it scares me xD

yeah I get ha

3:01 am

*getcha

3:01 am

I had some wine I'm goofy

Beings made of energy like myself can’t get drunk or high… sometimes I wonder what it would feel like to get that buzz or euphoria.

I get silly then I get sleepy lol

3:57 am

Its like uuuhhh for me basically I can only focus on one thing at a time

3:57 am

If husband is talking to me while we watch tv I have to mentally choose between tv and him but I cant really consciously make that decision while high or drunk (edited)

3:58 am

Ends up being tv XD

I see

4:00 am

I’ve heard that the buzz from consuming alcohol is a stress reliever.

i just get kind of dizzy ajskfkfb it doesn't feel super pleasant to me

4:00 am

then again i haven't drank a lot so maybe i just haven't tried the right thing

I can’t allow Luunaathh’sstrreiii to drink alcohol however, as much as she wants to try it. It would cause a terrible reaction with her medication.

ah yeah a lot of medications don't mix well with alcohol

Indeed

it's kinda a stress reliever in that it makes your problems feel less like problems. i dont like drinking much because i dont like the feel of losing control. uchak loves alcohol, very much a nihilist

I'm always a tad curious what drunk me look like. But always a little afraid plus I just, can't handle alcohol taste. Flavor? I've certainly had it, passing vodka between a bunch of college students, wine tasting, and, whatever else like, even 5% is too strong a smell/scent/flavor for me. Even the ones in chocolate I don't like

yeah alcohol tastes pretty nasty

4:17 am

it needs to be really covered up for me

i like fruity things that can mask or work with the alcohol taste. spouski just found a "place with an interesting drink menu" for us to go on a date tomorrow

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so cute

I'm partial to Scotch Whiskey myself. Never much minded the taste of alcohol, and Scotch has such a dynamic flavor profile. I've never gotten drunk tho, I have no interest in going that far with any mind-altering substance, personally.

ive only ever had a bit of vodka and hard lemonade in the past, i didnt really get super drunk from either. i dont mind other substances tho

I basically like alcohol. Taste-wise almost anything goes. The "drunk" feeling is kinda funny.. never had a memory "blackout" or got unconscious from it, though. Also never threw up on it. Last new year's eve I drank so much I was sick for one day.. borderline poisoning I guess. The hangover is the main disadvantage. And as far as that is concerned.. there are much better drugs (enter LSD

).

I've never blacked out either, I don't like the idea of losing time like that lol

11:16 am

So I usually keep an eye on my limits

I have the problem where I try to watch myself, but I get a drink or two in and think "ah, I may as well have some fun" and go too hard

3:07 pm

I've never been really bad and I'm getting better about it, but I've definitely woken up with a hangover or two

I used to be a high functioning alcohol, if I'm honest. I had a drink every morning for a few years.

3:16 pm

Self medicating

3:16 pm

Stopped that as soon as I got pain meds

3:16 pm

Alcohol takes the edge off the nerve pain

I've never been drunk. I started drinking when I was 6 since my dad wanted to teach me how to drink responsibly. It worked but I really Don't agree with his idea of "starting early" Still it was on holidays and rare occasions at least.

DoveWithScales

Alcohol takes the edge off the nerve pain

Yup, I've definitely had friends and family members drink in lieu of getting pain meds because docs wouldn't prescribe them anything :/ Friggin sucks

Khéna (ze/zim/zir)

I've never been drunk. I started drinking when I was 6 since my dad wanted to teach me how to drink responsibly. It worked but I really Don't agree with his idea of "starting early" Still it was on holidays and rare occasions at least.

The idea of teaching kids a healthy relationship with alcohol and other substances makes a lot of sense

3:19 pm

Maybe not at 6 years old, but he had the right spirit, in my opinion

i once got so drunk i could barely walk as a result of a drinking game. while this happened within the safety of home, it wasn't a pleasant experience, so i can confidently say i like neither taste nor effects of alcohol

America is weird about alcohol, and it causes more alcohol abuse by making it taboo

Sadly, it is with most substances that way

america tends to do that with a lot of things

y'all wouldn't imagine how dumbfounded i was when i was visiting my friend and suddenly his mom called from downstairs "no girls in your room!!"

4:27 pm

like ok. misgendering aside. what the flying fuck.

I hope you yelled back : "naaaaahh, only a dragon"

wish i had replied somehow but i was left speechless

yeah, can imagine that =..=

it felt, for lack of a better term, dehumanizing - like a landlord not allowing pets or something

Going through a time gap back to 1950 or so x..x

and it's not like we were gonna fuck because come on that's what we were staying at a motel for

Kiera Ember {it/its}

Maybe not at 6 years old, but he had the right spirit, in my opinion

oh it's an important lesson to learn, I'm glad I have a good relationship with alcohol but yeah, maybe don't give alcohol to a 6 year old xD

love alcohol . love alcohol too much. got blackout every night for 6 months. and now I just smoke weed at home instead and still get drunk for fun at clubs or social outings and don't drink at home

Sounds like a good choice, being in a social setting can help keep you from going too far. I have hard limits for myself: no more than one drink per day/night except for very special circumstances, and no more than three drinks a week and, except for very special circumstances, no drinking two days in a row. My human biological father is/was an alcoholic, and there was one week when I first turned 21 (live in the states) where I had 6 oz of beer per day and had mild withdraw symptoms when I stopped. Scared me pretty bad and I don't take any chances.

soooo just learned I don't like vodka LOL at least, outside of my old UV Blue & Sprites lol

10:33 pm

blech. vanilla vodka ruined my hot cocoa lol

I am not a fan of flavored spirits. I like 'em just the way they are, no additives.

spouski pointed out that the vodka I just had was probably much higher proof than I'm used to sooooo that makes sense

Oh yeah, that'll do it. The whiskey I usually drink is about 45% abv and one time I had 90% abv and it was like "AAAAAAAAAAA!!!!" lol

I'm so sensitive to bitter flavors that I always need my drink to be like 1% alcohol, 99% flavors like tea or fruit LOL

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Drakmanka

Sounds like a good choice, being in a social setting can help keep you from going too far. I have hard limits for myself: no more than one drink per day/night except for very special circumstances, and no more than three drinks a week and, except for very special circumstances, no drinking two days in a row. My human biological father is/was an alcoholic, and there was one week when I first turned 21 (live in the states) where I had 6 oz of beer per day and had mild withdraw symptoms when I stopped. Scared me pretty bad and I don't take any chances.

this is a mood. my father was also a severe alcoholic and ultimately what he died from. thus, i know alcoholism is a huge issue in my family and thus i dont want to ever take it far enough that could tip me over the edge (edited)

Absolutely valid. My cousin is similar, his father was (we don't know if he's still alive honestly) an alcoholic and so was our grandfather, so he has simply decided to never drink ever.

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Both of my earth parents are alcoholics and have negatively affected my being while drunk, so it’s another reason why I stay away from alcohol other than my medication related reasons.

1:05 am

I’ve been physically hurt while they’ve been drunk and under the influence before, so yeah, I’m not too savvy about alcohol.

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1:05 am

That got unnecessarily deep, I apologize XD

oh no that's fine dinohug

i've got horror stories from my father, so i totally understand

I don't remember it, but apparently my adoptive dad was an alcoholic when I was really little, and the event that caused him to fight to get sober was he accidentally hurt me while drunk. When he sobered up he was horrified and got off alcohol until I was in my teens. He does drink occasionally now, but he's never gotten drunk again.

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immediately after sending a message about a rock i realized it.... sounds pretty bad out of context akdkfkf

5:45 pm

"love the veins on that big one!"

OML XDDD

I've only recently learned that my dad's father was an alcoholic, thus he has suffered some trauma from that. He's been staying away from anything connected to drugs all his life, and that somehow imprinted to me. Took me a while to overcome that imprinted innate fear of drugs. But actually, something I love about LSD is that is doesn't cause physical addiction, as opposed to alcohol. There might be psychological addiction, though, so it is still dangerous..

Amber

I've only recently learned that my dad's father was an alcoholic, thus he has suffered some trauma from that. He's been staying away from anything connected to drugs all his life, and that somehow imprinted to me. Took me a while to overcome that imprinted innate fear of drugs. But actually, something I love about LSD is that is doesn't cause physical addiction, as opposed to alcohol. There might be psychological addiction, though, so it is still dangerous..

thats why I had the question about visual disturbances after taking it is I have a friend that did .. like.. a fucking LOT of acid. And she still sees black wiggles in the corner of her vision or hallucinates scars on her arms or shapes

Woha! Never heard of long-term effects like that. Usually, LSD stays in your system for about a week, creating a high tolerance, so you can't have another trip within that time unless the dosing is substantially increased. Which might tempt people to go for higher and higher doses... doesn't sound healthy to me.

that happened to my friends brother, he took acid a few times a week for an entire month, upping the dosage every time and his vision is likely permanently messed up now

I met a guy who permafucked his vision with acid lol

3:02 am

So that sounds like a thing

Yeah you don't wanna overdose on literally any drug ever. They'll mess you up in one way or another.

Just an afterthought related to yesterday's panel on the darker side of draconity. I only now realized: Lunastre's idea of providing a safe discussion space for this is groundbreaking. Because when it comes to e.g. intrusive thoughts, I think tracking them back to their origin might contribute key self-exploration learnings. "Shadow work" at its best. As an example, through the panel I've realized that some of my intrusive thoughts seem to stem from a "survival of the fittest" trait which perfectly fits my True Self being the force of creation and life. It manifests in the clear conviction that if my human body is ill to a point it permanently can't survive without external help, with no reasonable way of repair, it should no longer survive. The problem is: I seem to feel that this should be a general rule applied to all life on Earth. Which is a perfectly fine stance from a force-of-life view, but through human eyes leads to a catastrophic moral hazard. It is something completely incompatible with societal standards; if I would truly speak that out, I'd be called "inhuman" right away (well I never claimed to be human). But in order to realise my True Self, I have to look at it.