Draconic Summit Spring 2023

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(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol) pinned a message to this channel. 6/3/2023 9:07 pm

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: Luunaathh you must refrain from talking in Madara’s panel on courtship… the sea biscuits would be incredibly sad if they knew you were having sex… (edited)

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5:47 am

Vouulluunkkeiiithh what the fuck XDDDDDDD

(Luunaathh) pinned a message to this channel. 14/3/2023 5:47 am

Pinning that lmfao XDDDD

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: Tis true though! (edited)

5:55 am

Wot

The summit hasn't even started yet and you and Vouulluunnkkeiiithh are on your lean bean bullshit, lol.

When are either of them not on lean bean bullshit?

For once I can actually agree with you on something.

We’re just having fun, lmao

I'm definitely drunk and I might regret this by the time I wake up, but I'm still curious and find it important to get someone else's experience and/or view on this topic: I just got back from a party with friends and a large group of people I don't know. At some point I connected with a woman and we hit it off. We spend the rest of the evening talking and drinking together, along with some mild physical contact (ended in french-kissing and getting quite touchy). She was willing to come to my house and spend the night, but I flat out declined because of the fact she is purely human and I felt no spiritual connection with her. It's something I highly value when it comes to being physical with someone because I feel like I am completely opening myself up to someone during those moments. I have a couple of FWB's that I do connect with on a spiritual level, thus I felt no need to spend my night with her. I explained to her I'm sorry and that I don't do one night stands, but I still felt like I did her wrong? My question is; how do/did you deal with humans wanting to have a sexual relationship with you when you are purely invested in something beyond just physical contact?

Well, you have every right to deny a sexual advance if you're not comfortable or willing to engage in that way.

10:49 pm

You're also not obligated to let someone into your home if you don't want them there for whatever reason.

True, but physically there was no reason to. This body was willing.

Sometimes our views and preferences overcome bodily urges. That happens to my being a lot actually.

That's true as well.

10:51 pm

I guess I just needed to hear it from someone else. I feel guilty over denying her, despite I would never be able to explain to her the true reason why I declined her.

I understand how you feel!

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10:52 pm

Your comfort matters regardless though, you're never obligated to do something for someone when you're either uncomfortable with it or on the fence about it.

I feel like I make it unnecessarily difficult for myself on this world to have any kind of relationship, but it also means so much to me that I want it to be difficult so I know it will be worth it.

I understand completely. Sometimes I find myself wanting to pursue a relationship with someone who isn't alterhuman, and sometimes my body and heart really wants it. Though I always end up defaulting on my views since I never want to "betray" my own views, per say.

The mind is stronger than the heart when it comes to us, it seems.

In many cases! I know a lot of dragonkin who outright refuse to pursue a romantic relationship with non-dragonkin. (edited)

10:58 pm

I'm more romantically attracted to other nonhumans, though I can't say I've ever tried to pursue a romantic relationship with anyone I've had romantic interest with in the community.

10:58 pm

In fact, my draconian courtship instincts always lead my being to be romantically picky, even upon this earth.

I'm not that strict, but I can't just have sex with someone right now and throw them out of my house the next morning. I open myself up way too mch to someone to only do that for one night. I'd probably creep a pure human being out by acting how I usually do. (unless they are into a very feral version of sex)

In my case, I was Asexual as a dragon and am Asexual in this life, so I just turn down any sexual advances flat out and if someone has an issue with my orientation then I just point out that's just one more reason I don't want to be physically intimate with them. You don't ever owe anyone physical intimacy, just as no one can ever owe you the same.

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That's entirely understandable, one night stands aren't for everyone.

11:02 pm

I've never had sex before upon this earth, and I've never actually kissed anyone on the lips. I know it's kind of societally unacceptable to be of a certain age and never having intimate contact, though I don't understand why it's societally unacceptable in the first place. Many people just don't want to have sex or engage in intimate contact for whatever reason, and all of those reasons are perfectly valid. (edited)

(Luunaathh)

I've never had sex before upon this earth, and I've never actually kissed anyone on the lips. I know it's kind of societally unacceptable to be of a certain age and never having intimate contact, though I don't understand why it's societally unacceptable in the first place. Many people just don't want to have sex or engage in intimate contact for whatever reason, and all of those reasons are perfectly valid. (edited)

This. The fact that it's somehow socially unacceptable to "still be a virgin" past a certain age is completely stupid. No one should ever be expected to do something like that just to be "acceptable" at a certain age. It's an act that requires trust to an extreme degree, and should not be undertaken lightly, especially the first time.

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I'm thankful for the FWB's I have, but I've known them for over a decade by now and it took me many years before I could be completely myself. I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't for them, I would probably be comfortable being asexual and not engaging in any kind of intercourse during this life. Thank you, both. It cleared my mind and took away some of the doubt. I'll still send her another message tomorrow morning to explain it was entirely my decision. I wouldn't want her to feel bad in any way because of my doing.

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Of course! I'm happy to help! ^^

This human brain is highly intoxicated right now, so I will go to bed now and see how I feel tomorrow, haha.

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Understandable, I hope you get some good rest!

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Akir'ischa

I'm definitely drunk and I might regret this by the time I wake up, but I'm still curious and find it important to get someone else's experience and/or view on this topic: I just got back from a party with friends and a large group of people I don't know. At some point I connected with a woman and we hit it off. We spend the rest of the evening talking and drinking together, along with some mild physical contact (ended in french-kissing and getting quite touchy). She was willing to come to my house and spend the night, but I flat out declined because of the fact she is purely human and I felt no spiritual connection with her. It's something I highly value when it comes to being physical with someone because I feel like I am completely opening myself up to someone during those moments. I have a couple of FWB's that I do connect with on a spiritual level, thus I felt no need to spend my night with her. I explained to her I'm sorry and that I don't do one night stands, but I still felt like I did her wrong? My question is; how do/did you deal with humans wanting to have a sexual relationship with you when you are purely invested in something beyond just physical contact?

I kind of get this. For the record, i consider myself demisexual, homoromantic. So physical intimacy is... difficult for me. So far, i've not managed to form any strong enough bond with someone purely human in nature, which is the direct answer to your question. I dont find humans particularly attractive, and in truth, my sense of attraction is heavily muted if it's not draconic. Heck, even some times, "odd enough" draconic creatures trigger this in me. Obviously, i have the strongest attraction to R'Thakians, but you're not going to be seeing those running around in the wild here, really. But, outside my playmate (or joyfriend, as some here know it as) i only have my Love, who is also R'Thakian, and we're not really physical like that, here. Neither one of us has a "normal" functioning sex drive, and thus are both grey-ace in nature. However, our R'Thakian counterparts are considered to have normal sex drives, for themselves at least, and my other half identifies as a "normal" lesbian, as we'd understand it. My Mate would probably self identity as a "normal" bisexual, as we'd know it.

Dragonne

I kind of get this. For the record, i consider myself demisexual, homoromantic. So physical intimacy is... difficult for me. So far, i've not managed to form any strong enough bond with someone purely human in nature, which is the direct answer to your question. I dont find humans particularly attractive, and in truth, my sense of attraction is heavily muted if it's not draconic. Heck, even some times, "odd enough" draconic creatures trigger this in me. Obviously, i have the strongest attraction to R'Thakians, but you're not going to be seeing those running around in the wild here, really. But, outside my playmate (or joyfriend, as some here know it as) i only have my Love, who is also R'Thakian, and we're not really physical like that, here. Neither one of us has a "normal" functioning sex drive, and thus are both grey-ace in nature. However, our R'Thakian counterparts are considered to have normal sex drives, for themselves at least, and my other half identifies as a "normal" lesbian, as we'd understand it. My Mate would probably self identity as a "normal" bisexual, as we'd know it.

I see your message, and read it, but will respond after some much needed sleep if you don’t mind. dragnheart

I’m glad to see my message triggered more responses though.

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Akir'ischa

I see your message, and read it, but will respond after some much needed sleep if you don’t mind. dragnheart

I’m glad to see my message triggered more responses though.

S'okay! Once i saw how you described yourself, and your more recent messages, i did not expect you to actually get it until your tomorrow.

I am so uncomfortable right now

4:59 am

I have a huge rash on my chest area and I have no idea where it came from

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Oh no!

That sucks I'm sorry :c Maybe it's just environmental irritants? I don't know you though so be safe (edited)

It just... popped up that fast? That's alarming.

5:00 am

If you have Benadryl cream, it might be worth seeing if it helps soothe it

It could be environmentally related, we did just get a big cold front and the wind could have blown something in that’s been irritating my skin

5:00 am

My legs and back are super itchy also

If you happen to have eczema I know it happens to me with certain lotions and temperature changes

It could "just" be hives, yeah... they can pop up that fast.

I’ve never been diagnosed with eczema, though I have gotten really bad hives before

5:02 am

One time the body had hives literally all over its back and chest area… it was unpleasant

I had a similar experience in my early teens. 0/10 do not recommend. Hope you feel better soon friend!

Ah, I’m sorry that happened to you friend… also I appreciate it ;;

(Luunaathh)

One time the body had hives literally all over its back and chest area… it was unpleasant

Yeah I hope you feel better soon too, that's never fun.

Thankie, I appreciate it ;;

have you handled anything new, or changed the kinds of soaps or lotions you use (or deodorant or perfume or anything else that goes on your skin), or detergents, fabric softeners, etc? we're very sensitive to a lot of those things. if it's something like that, it might calm down a little with some benadryl and a shower with products you don't normally react to to remove any residue on your skin. i hope it sorts out, soon. rashes and itching are very unpleasant to experience.

(Luunaathh)

It could be environmentally related, we did just get a big cold front and the wind could have blown something in that’s been irritating my skin

Do rashes or hives pop up often when with sudden cold?

Dragonne

S'okay! Once i saw how you described yourself, and your more recent messages, i did not expect you to actually get it until your tomorrow.

It took a bit longer to find the time, but thanks for your answer! I’m starting to see a pattern among Dragonkin and/or Otherkin, haha.

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Akir'ischa

It took a bit longer to find the time, but thanks for your answer! I’m starting to see a pattern among Dragonkin and/or Otherkin, haha.

I mean, it does kind of make sense. Species logically should tend towards attractions within their own species. As it stands, i've sort of learned to appreciate the differences in humans enough to try and "fit in" among the normal people. Things like boobs, for example. Do the seriously interest me? Not really, i actually find them very weird. Similarly, as my species has "stronger, larger females", i find myself very confused at human females. But i try instead to look at the svelteness of human women as an analog to what i'm actually looking for. (After all, R'Thakian females might be larger and stronger than males, but we're all still svelte looking, and human men tend to be... not.) All in all, i end up looking at humans more like an art piece than sexually. During more intimate times, i'm focused less on the actual act of sex itself, and more on pleasure of the person as a whole. (Along with boobs-are-weird, this the other reason i prefer smaller chested women: greater sensitivity for them!) But all in all, to combat my grey-ace interest as well as dysphoria, i have to basically force a mental shift. For multiple reasons, this includes channeling the more sexual "lesbian energy" my other half possesses that i dont. Not to mention it heightens my more primal instincts and urges from my other half, giving me a hyper-focus ability for the other person.

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Glad I'm not alone in the "boobs are weird" camp! Like, even among mammals they're weird when you think about it! Add in being nonhuman and it's extra extra weird! Also the "seeing people as art" is so very much me. I'm very Asexual, and though I have a varying libido I have actually never felt sexually attracted to anyone, ever. It's entirely outside my wheelhouse. However, I do find humans attractive aesthetically. Someone can have a lovely smile, nice eyes, a cool hair color (natural or dyed it makes no difference), a shapely body, well defined muscles, or skilled in dancing in such a way as they transform into a living work of art on the dance floor. Honestly I find even "unsightly" humans beautiful in other ways. Like, watching a morbidly obese person insist on walking around Walmart and it's obvious they are working really hard to keep their balance, I find that beautiful, the strength of human will, perhaps the fact that this person has made a vow to themself to improve their health one step at a time. Etc. ...oops that got long.

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