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Draconic Summit Spring 2023
Draconic and Otherkind Themed / draconic-experiences-2
•Those who are draconic experience a vast amount of unique events and moments, so we would love to hear about your draconic experiences! There is no judgment here.
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(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol) 6/3/2023 9:12 pm
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(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol) 16/3/2023 4:54 pm
Going to start a derg conversation, what is your favorite part about being draconic? Do you like your wings, your tail, your home world, your unique features, personality, or language?
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I do not have a favorite part about being draconic honestly, I am just myself and I am happy with that.
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my favorite part is that it means dragons are real in this universe, even if all the real dragons live in human bodies
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Skyedancer☆System 16/3/2023 6:39 pm
Our favorite part is the freedom we feel whenever we have a mental shift, especially if we’re somewhere that we can act on some of our instincts and stuff. It’s a feeling like no other; being able to be ourself (at least as much as we can with this body).
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(Luunaathh) 16/3/2023 6:40 pm
Honestly I love it when I feel draconic, it’s such a euphoric feeling I can’t even describe with words.
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Skyedancer☆System 16/3/2023 6:41 pm
Yeah, it’s such an incredible experience.
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Aëto (they/them) 16/3/2023 9:06 pm
One of my favorite part is a kind of shift I have, where my body feels like it ends further than my physical body does. I feel heavier, larger, slower too, but more powerful, it's awesome, and so, so comfortable
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(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol)
Going to start a derg conversation, what is your favorite part about being draconic? Do you like your wings, your tail, your home world, your unique features, personality, or language?
Yes. That's what. So, basically all of it, the up ands the downs, as well. (Given my potentially otherkin-driven medical oddities.) Like so many others, when i have bouts of very draconic feelings or sensations, i experience a euphoria. Doubly so, considering my trans-ness.
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I agree with all the above. Every little thing that makes my brain go "oh hey, that's relatable/recognizable" fills me with joy and can turn a bad day into a good one. From the tiniest thing while at work to having an entire day planned out to 'feed' my soul, it's a feeling of completion and reintroducing a connection I sometimes fear I have lost. Just for that reason alone I started to love my shifts as they often also introduce phantom limbs and actually help me sleep better because I feel more "whole".
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(Luunaathh) 16/3/2023 9:48 pm
My shifts are interesting honestly... I'm not entirely connected to the entity I know as Luunaathh upon this earth (I upon this earth am a different entity than them, regardless of how connected we actually are), so any shifts I have, whether they be astral or phantom in nature, are more of a psychological phenomena related to the instincts and feelings brought on by my intrinsic memories if anything. In my eyes, that doesn't detract from the shifts in any way though, and when I do have them, they're very powerful and allow my being to be connected with myself more, feeling a sense of euphoria and peace. (edited)
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Why do events like this always make me so shifty ^^'
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Because we hype eachother
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i should set up my vr stuff and hop into that dragon flight game
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(Luunaathh) 17/3/2023 7:08 pm
I feel somewhat shifty during events like this also!
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The only problem I have with getting shifty is that I find it difficult to talk, let alone in a non-native language. I get way more focused on being physical and my senses.
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Works fine with physical gatherings, not so much online, hah.
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(Luunaathh) 17/3/2023 7:14 pm
That’s understandable honestly
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Akir'ischa
The only problem I have with getting shifty is that I find it difficult to talk, let alone in a non-native language. I get way more focused on being physical and my senses.
Well, you can use your native language but... Maybe it's just me but I feel that, at least when it comes to stuff regarding draconity, I can much better express myself in English.
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Oh yeah agreed. English works fine when expressing myself, but the problem lies in being able to express myself in words at all when shifted.
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Akir'ischa
The only problem I have with getting shifty is that I find it difficult to talk, let alone in a non-native language. I get way more focused on being physical and my senses.
Me too, I get kinda non-verbal and do dragon sounds mostly (at least I try to)
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Akir'ischa
Oh yeah agreed. English works fine when expressing myself, but the problem lies in being able to express myself in words at all when shifted.
Ah yes, that's different
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Yeah I've gotten deep enough in shifts before where trying to speak English is a massive chore. I can, but it's like speaking a second language and all the grammar is funky
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Ryuu | 夢化竜 17/3/2023 9:47 pm
english? I can’t speak any verbal languages then
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Revolution Radio 17/3/2023 10:55 pm
I haven't been able to make any noises that satisfy me as "dragony enough," at least for myself. can't really make gatorlike gurgles or anything like that due to my throat anatomy lol So I just don't
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If you want, I can offer you some advice. /nf
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If you miss the sensation of flying and you’re going to Disney World, I HIGHLY recommend going on Flight of Passage. The wait takes forever but it’s literally so good that I cried.
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(Luunaathh) 17/3/2023 11:07 pm
Roller coasters both intrigue and terrify my being XD
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geigersnap
If you miss the sensation of flying and you’re going to Disney World, I HIGHLY recommend going on Flight of Passage. The wait takes forever but it’s literally so good that I cried.
Try skydiving! Or flying a small plane (Cessna). It's the closest I got.
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True!
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Revolution Radio 17/3/2023 11:26 pm
I really like rollercoasters. They are one of the ways I can feel a bit "flighty"
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I like them too, and I mainly like that most of them somehow let me just experience my acrophobia less intensely (probably because I'm moving too fast for me to even make out my surroundings on them)
11:39 pm
But even then that has the problem of making me motion sick
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i like them when they're not too tall
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i'm pretty bad with heights, probably because i no longer have wings
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Revolution Radio 17/3/2023 11:55 pm
I don't really enjoy large drops for the sake of the thrill, but I do like the more rolling gentle ones, or rollercoasters where the drops happen more than once, so it's not this anxious impending doom waiting for it lol.
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That way, if there's multiple drops throughout the coaster, or if there is just a lot of height and movement overall, it's less scary than One Big Drop (anticipation).
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Loops are fun, but they don't do anything for the "flight feeling" to me, since they sort of squash and stretch you, rather than make you feel weightless, which is why drops and rolls and spirals are more important for that, to me.
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I definitely need anti motion sickness medication for most roller coasters, especially ones with iany types of nversions because those in particular just absolutely wreck me
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Revolution Radio 17/3/2023 11:57 pm
Ah like, dramamine or something?
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Yeah, stuff like that
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Revolution Radio 17/3/2023 11:58 pm
Once I took dramamine on a boat and I fell asleep xD
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But I don't normally get seasick or motion sick anyway
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I hope the medications help you enjoy things like that.
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I know it can be absolutely miserable to be motion sick
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I don't think I get seasick easily but (unfortunately) the last time I've been on the water in any capacity other than a public pool was the summer of 2014, at a lake in Kentucky
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OH another draconic tip: MyNoise has almost any soundscape you can think of, it’s so good and very helpful.
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I love those paraglider carnival rides and really tall swing rides for feeling like flying.
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These things
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Akir'ischa
Because we hype eachother
Similar here! Normally, we both also balance our stresses between us, as well!
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Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 1:57 am
Those look fun but they scare me more than coastersm
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Akir'ischa
The only problem I have with getting shifty is that I find it difficult to talk, let alone in a non-native language. I get way more focused on being physical and my senses.
Same. My shifts happen in two main ways, the primary being shocked out of a deep sleep too quickly. I "wake up", and everybody sounds like they're speaking gibberish to me. Everybody else only hears me making growl and rawr sounds. (My family affectionately calls this my "grawrs".) Basically, i lose my English, in favor of my draconic language. (Which is what my thoughts are in.) The other way, much rarer, is... umm... we'll call it "shared playtime". I have to force a shift to deal with the dysphoria, which also causes my language to falter.
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dreki
Me too, I get kinda non-verbal and do dragon sounds mostly (at least I try to)
That's me in my forced shifts.
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But I don't normally get seasick or motion sick anyway
AW! Now i'm jealous. I have terrible motion sickness issues. Even cars.
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Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 2:02 am
As I've gotten a little older, I have admittedly become a little bit more motion sick, but that's only if I'm reading something in the passenger seat.
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If I'm the one driving or as long as I'm not looking at my phone or anything, usually fine.
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But I get bored in the car pretty easily. So.
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Revolution Radio
As I've gotten a little older, I have admittedly become a little bit more motion sick, but that's only if I'm reading something in the passenger seat.
Good way to get me motion sick within a minute or two, here. So far i've shown i can last around 7 hours at max, if i have munchies and music to sing to the entire time. After that... nope.
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Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 2:34 am
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I don't get motion sick
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The trade off is stomachaches from stress/anxiety and dizziness from standing up
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Illia
The trade off is stomachaches from stress/anxiety and dizziness from standing up
Feel that. Definitely the stress and anxiety. Though my dizziness is mostly from my Elhers Danlos. Easy enough to mitigate.
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Oh yeah, I'm actually getting tested for EDS right now or another possibly hypermobility disorder
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2:56 am
it's taking forever because american healthcare but the general consensus is "hey your body shouldn't do that"
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Illia
it's taking forever because american healthcare but the general consensus is "hey your body shouldn't do that"
Yup, that's my life here, as well. I've got so many doctors going "...wut?" that the clinic where most of my doctors were nicknamed me their "favorite medical mystery"! I love it.
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Doctors found out I had an extremely rare chromosomal mutation, like less than 250 people ever rare, because a miscommunication made them order the wrong test on accident
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plus the many things that doctors only diagnosis has been "dude, no idea. ghosts maybe?"
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Illia
plus the many things that doctors only diagnosis has been "dude, no idea. ghosts maybe?"
This is basically how i got my fibromyalgia diagnosis! But the doctor was a little more... direct and honest than "ghost". I loved her for her blunt layman's capabilities. "So, basically, fibromyalgia basically means we dont have a clue, and are essentially going 'i give up'." But explains what they had found properly. Which was they know my muscles are spasming, and are focused on my upper back and shoulders, but why i'm having these neuromuscular issues is... up to the void, they guessed. She had the weirdest look when we discovered that GABA meds do nothing they're suppose to do properly for my body. Which is really weird, medically speaking.
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Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 3:36 am
LITERALLYLYYYYY
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Dragonne
This is basically how i got my fibromyalgia diagnosis! But the doctor was a little more... direct and honest than "ghost". I loved her for her blunt layman's capabilities. "So, basically, fibromyalgia basically means we dont have a clue, and are essentially going 'i give up'." But explains what they had found properly. Which was they know my muscles are spasming, and are focused on my upper back and shoulders, but why i'm having these neuromuscular issues is... up to the void, they guessed. She had the weirdest look when we discovered that GABA meds do nothing they're suppose to do properly for my body. Which is really weird, medically speaking.
Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 3:36 am
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia too only after I fought tooth and nail for them to test me and rule out other things lol
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Revolution Radio
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia too only after I fought tooth and nail for them to test me and rule out other things lol
Similar story. Fought hard with many doctors telling me i'm perfectly fine. I was told this for many years before i understood "perfectly healthy" translated to "needs glasses, has dyslexia, has ASD, has ADHD, has EDS, has asthma [etc.]" it wasnt until my favorite doctor, my endocrinologist, figured out the basics going on in my system that the other doctors started to realize i wasnt being a hypochondriac, and actually diagnosing me with my problems. Incidentally, the asthma was a particularly bad one, as it includes heart palpitations as a comorbid side effect of my anxiety binding together. So it was first though i has heart issues! No, it's freaking asthma.
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I still think about the doctor who very seriously told me I had an increased chance of autism. I had been diagnosed for years, it was definitely in my records, and I'm pretty visible about it. thanks, buddy, I sure do have an increased chance
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Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 3:45 am
Yeah its very insulting to get "that look" from a doctor and you just know they're thinking about the anxiety diagnosis or calling you a hypochondriac internally. So many doctors have used my anxiety diagnosis to automatically ignore me.
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I'm definitely worried about when I do see a doctor about stuff they end up ignoring the leg bone pain I've had for a lot of my life (the worst of it usually being in my left femur)
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the one that sticks out most to me as "how did you get a license" is somebody working for disability services called my mom and asked to talk to me, on the phone, about my mutism. he wanted to talk to me about my mutism. he wanted to talk, verbally, to me, mute, about being mute. do you want to try that one again?
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ahem *gets on Ranting Soapbox* Doctors nearly let me die when I was 3 because I was "too young to be sick". When my parents, who, bless them, never gave up trying to get me diagnosed with something, anything, finally found a surgeon who actually looked at me and not my age, he was horrified. I had acute tonsilitis. My tonsils were so inflamed that if I went into a deep stage of sleep I would stop breathing. The only reason I was still alive at that point was because my mom wasn't sleeping at all during the nights but instead was lying awake listening to the baby monitor she had next to my head, listening for my breathing to stop so she could come in and wake me up so I'd start breathing again. Fuck anyone, no matter their level of education, that refuses to consider the possibility that someone is sick, no matter what they bullshit reasons are. *ceases rant, gets down off Ranting Soapbox* I'm just lucky my problem was fixed with a simple surgery and I don't have permanent health problems because of all those morons who waved me away all those years ago.
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I know that in terms of stuff about doctors probably the worst thing I've ever heard relates to me having had a giant cell tumor in my jaw, I think the largest doctors had seen in a child my age (I was 5 when it happened)? There was a child oncologist who was actually disappointed it wasn't an extremely rare type of cancer
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yeah, I've been lucky enough to have a loving family and mostly good doctors, but while definitely not as serious as your case I was in a lot of pain as a baby because of lactose intolerance and doctors just brushed it off as me being fussy and my mom overreacting over and over rather than even consider something was wrong
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Illia
I still think about the doctor who very seriously told me I had an increased chance of autism. I had been diagnosed for years, it was definitely in my records, and I'm pretty visible about it. thanks, buddy, I sure do have an increased chance
Something similar happened to me today, actually. Not ASD, but doctor overlooking an important related facet. My appt today was to follow up on my new anti-depression med. I'm doing well on the low dose we started on, but i realized there was a major contraindication with another of my primary meds, which had serious side effects, if it cropped up. (These included lots of health-harzards like high blood pressure, but seizures were a common one.) This is called "Serotonin Syndrome". So, that was my big talking point for this session. It's a good thing i did, because while the doctor and nurse knew i was on the contraindicated med (my muscle relaxer) they did not realize that my rx was daily with a high dosage already. So it my not have been safe to increase over what i already started. We opted for an augment-based anti-depressant that pairs with my lose-dose current one, which does not contraindicate with my current meds.
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that and a lot of doctors have just. given up on me. it hurts to be told that they can't help you, try someone else, so many times you start running out of professionals in the area. had a therapist quit after the first session and another therapist quit because I made her "too sad" (she was very nice, but. what?) and even if it was for the best, still disheartening
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the understanding that medicine is very complicated and most of these doctors are genuinely trying their best to help but understand they aren't suited for my specific issues VS this is your job come ON quit playing hot potato with me
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To a degree I blame the way the medical system is set up. I'm not remembering specific details right now but basically, doctors don't want patients that are hard to diagnose or are a high risk for major health problems because doctors get demerits for "failing" patients. Especially if a patient dies on their watch. Which, to a degree I get it, they want to avoid negligence. But it's incredibly stupid that it basically makes doctors avoid the people who need them the most. Source: My best friend is a surg tech (edited)
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Yeah just the whole way the mecical system is set up is absolutely horrible especially in places like the US
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still pissed I got denied for disability benefits for having $11 over the max. ah yes, of course, surely I don't need support with my grand and sprawling wealth of $11 and the one lavish bulk box of pasta
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Revolution Radio 18/3/2023 3:57 am
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have fun, PEASANTS, I'm over here bathing in my riches
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OMG you can afford BOXED PASTA?!?!?! Yeah you're totally way too wealthy for disability!
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ahem *gets on Ranting Soapbox* Doctors nearly let me die when I was 3 because I was "too young to be sick". When my parents, who, bless them, never gave up trying to get me diagnosed with something, anything, finally found a surgeon who actually looked at me and not my age, he was horrified. I had acute tonsilitis. My tonsils were so inflamed that if I went into a deep stage of sleep I would stop breathing. The only reason I was still alive at that point was because my mom wasn't sleeping at all during the nights but instead was lying awake listening to the baby monitor she had next to my head, listening for my breathing to stop so she could come in and wake me up so I'd start breathing again. Fuck anyone, no matter their level of education, that refuses to consider the possibility that someone is sick, no matter what they bullshit reasons are. *ceases rant, gets down off Ranting Soapbox* I'm just lucky my problem was fixed with a simple surgery and I don't have permanent health problems because of all those morons who waved me away all those years ago.
While we're starting to get off topic a bit, i ahve a channel-related topic that derives from this, actually. I nearly died as well, though not through the fault of the (horrible) medical system. As a new born, in the 80s, i caught a case of viral pneumonia. In my region, at that time, there was not a safe way to treat infants with viral pneumonia, only the more common bacterial form. So my prognosis was basically i was dead already and just did know it. It has a horribly low survival rate. Well, it's an dragonkin thing, because it happens that just before i caught this lethal infection, my draconic half did something rather dumb, and nearly died from the results. (She was either still-a-fledgling-but-almost-an-adult or a recently-mature-adult at the time.) Long story short, she had flight training issues, for far longer than is reasonable for fledglings. In a bout of anger, depression, and dumbness, she snuck off from her mother and siblings, found a seaside cliff, and determined that the seabreeze may help her grasp flight mechanics better than she's been failing to do. She assessed this very incorrectly. It was only the fact our mother is the R'Thakian version of a medical doctor, and was literally only second late for the leap. She wasnt fast enough to catch my draconic half, however, who was thrashed against the cliff and shoals. It's were the scar on our chest comes from. But that timing allowed immediate magical first aid, or me and my draconic half would not be alive due to that. It took around three days for her to heal back to functional health. In the same time period, between nurse shifts, i went from "foot in the grave" to no-long-sick. perfectly healthy. Suddenly.
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For those who might be putting two and two together: yes, it's the same cliff i now live on. And yes, this also the incident that caused me to develop asthma, as my lungs were damaged due to infection. This same incident is also how i earned my name. (edited)
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Oh, wow, that is amazing. Concurrent lives are fascinating. I'm glad you both survived!
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Important tip: crunching on ice reminds me of crunching on gems
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(Luunaathh) 19/3/2023 5:36 am
Ugh, the draconic urge to eat whole eggs with the shell is incredibly strong right now swagsniff
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egg nomf
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orbit da dragon 19/3/2023 6:25 am
i was watching a video of a quail egg hatch and became strangely focused on it. it was a strange feeling almost like i was hatching or watching over my own hatchling. hmmmm i don't know how to feel about it because i would never have children in my human body
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orbit da dragon
i was watching a video of a quail egg hatch and became strangely focused on it. it was a strange feeling almost like i was hatching or watching over my own hatchling. hmmmm i don't know how to feel about it because i would never have children in my human body
It is quite an amazing thing to watch, a hatching!!
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It is quite an amazing thing to watch, a hatching!!
orbit da dragon 19/3/2023 6:33 am
there is something so so beautiful about eggs hatching and the strong fight for life that comes from something so tiny! i have always loved watching egg hatching videos. definitely a kin feeling there
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orbit da dragon
there is something so so beautiful about eggs hatching and the strong fight for life that comes from something so tiny! i have always loved watching egg hatching videos. definitely a kin feeling there
Ditto! Is beautiful! I grew up partly on a farm, and we had chickens. So i've gotten to see a few hatchings. I'm also blessed enough to have memories of some of my own clutches hatching. Our shells are mostly nacre, and are this beautiful opalescent blue. (edited)
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Dragonne
Ditto! Is beautiful! I grew up partly on a farm, and we had chickens. So i've gotten to see a few hatchings. I'm also blessed enough to have memories of some of my own clutches hatching. Our shells are mostly nacre, and are this beautiful opalescent blue. (edited)
orbit da dragon 19/3/2023 6:44 am
i grew up with family friends that had a backyard flock of chickens and was always facinated with them! i was too scared to pick them up. i would love to raise birds one day. its probably the closest i will get to raising a clutch here on earth lol
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i knew someone before in the vague sort of way that you might know distant family that you very rarely see in person who wanted to have children but couldn't find a partner that she liked for it (i don't think she liked men at all, normally, but i never asked, because it was very rude to pry for details that weren't offered). she found me tolerable enough to ask if i'd help her with that, with the undertone being that i would then go back to my own life and not bother her again. i didn't mind. so i technically have several children, but i've never met them, or seen their eggs. it never really bothered me, but it might have been nice to meet them once. i understand, though. here on this earth, if you go to a sperm bank, it's with the understanding that the donor isn't going to want to bring the kids birthday gifts later or something! we just didn't have that kind of convenient method for conception. quite a lot of our system love animals and we follow some owl and kestrel cams every year to see them nesting and follow their families as they grow up and leave the nest. we would love to live somewhere we could have nest boxes that would interest birds of prey.
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My species practiced a form of adoption for all our eggs. So while a dragon couple may choose to mate and produce eggs, it's with the full understanding that once the clutch is laid their duty is finished. If a dragon wishes to be a parent in the sense of raising a hatchling, they must adopt one such egg. And we are exacting on who is permitted the honor. A dragon must be at least a century of age, which is our official age of adulthood (even though we physically mature by 2 years of age), and pass mental and physical testing from the Elders. I got to raise one hatchling, who as it turns out was by blood my half-brother. We shared the same mother, but as she never took a life mate we had different fathers as she chose her mates on the basis of what would be the best genetic blending for her eggs. So though we are siblings our relationship includes feelings of mother-son since I raised him.
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