Draconic Summit Spring 2023 - draconic-experiences-3

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(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol) pinned a message to this channel. 6/3/2023 9:12 pm

I'll start another conversation in this channel. What things have you attached to upon this earth that are a result of your draconity or your draconic experiences? Do you have an attachment to crystals, stones, animal remains, clothes, metals, or something else? Do you happen to collect or "hoard" these items?

9:20 pm

I love quail, my true draconian self loves quail, plain and simple.

9:21 pm

You can feel free to share pictures of what you own #shiny-nest (edited)

(Auullthhuunnaakk)

I'll start another conversation in this channel. What things have you attached to upon this earth that are a result of your draconity or your draconic experiences? Do you have an attachment to crystals, stones, animal remains, clothes, metals, or something else? Do you happen to collect or "hoard" these items?

I think for me it's books. My speices does not really have a hoarding instinct, but as a whole we're knowledge seekers. So lore (Books, scrolls, stories and knowledge of all kinds) is a massive part of our society. As a young child, before i awoken and really started to discover myself, i did not read very much. Partly because i struggled with undiagnosed autism, dyslexia, needing glasses, a horrible educational system, etc. In truth, my love of reading only began manifesting after my awakening, and the start of understanding my draconic half. Since then, i've learned how to cope with my then-undiagnosed issues and the development of things like ebook readers to assist with my coping. These days, it's rare to see me without a book near me. Likewise, my draconic half is an avid history buff, as that's her job in her life: a historical librarian. I, as well, love my history!

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I bought a huge chunk of Obsidian almost 15 years ago after finding out it comes the closest to the color of my scales. Besides that I have collected a few other shiny minerals and gems with certain colors (light blue for the sky, amber for my past life's eye color etc.) that I hold dear.

I have quite a few things that I’m attached to on this earth as a result of my connection to my true draconian self. The most notable things are crystals, opals, ivory, bones, fur pelts, pottery, and seashells.

Shiny trinkets ! I find them everywhere, it's my hoard ^^ Bits of metal, lost jewellery, paintbrushes (for some reason I keep finding paintbrushes ! I've found five paintbrushes in five months so far ^^), everything that shines catches my eye. I've been finding them for as long as I can remember ^^ I call the ability to find shiny trinkets everywhere I go my shinydar :3 I also love cristals and minerals and feathers and plants. I hoard lots of stuff X)

As my true draconian self, I've always had an innate fascination with shiny minerals. I love the way they shine in different wavelengths of light and the fact that they're made from powerful forces deep beneath the earth. I've always had a fascination with fur pelts, bones, sharp teeth, and ivory since as my true draconian self, I'm a predator that hunts dragons and other creatures. I often kept horns, ivory from ivory bearing dragons, bones, teeth, and fur as trophies from these hunts to use in carvings or other forms of art in my spare time upon home. I embrace the fact that my form upon home is built for hunting quite a bit. Opals are my favorite kind of rock/mineral simply due to how shiny they are. I love pottery since it's one of the most ancient forms of art in many cultures and I like storing herbs in wonderfully decorated or shaped pots. Seashells originally come from mollusks and similar creatures, animals which I love all of my heart, so that's a given.

Unlike Luunaathh I can't say that I have any fascination with material things. I do love and appreciate quail a great amount, though I'm more interested in metaphysical concepts and knowledge in regard to the question I asked.

I can't say I remember ever hoarding anything

Understandable, I do not hoard things either.

11:39 pm

I wouldn't say Luunaathh hoards either actually, she just has very neat collections of items.

11:39 pm

She's actually very picky about the things she has in her little collection. Part of it is diagnosed OCD though the other part is her draconic pickiness.

I might've had a few things that were given as gifts by townspeople, but not out of a desire to have any sort of collection

I see, that's perfectly fair

11:43 pm

Gifts from others are certainly nice, though I've never received a gift from anyone upon my home world. Others fear to approach my being since I'm dark and scary.

Understandable, I know someone like that

I'm glad to know I'm not alone in experiencing such.

11:48 pm

I'm not one for comfort and love and all of those feelings, though having a semblance of relating to an uncommon experience I experience personally is relatively pleasant.

although I'm not super materialistic, I do like shinies. Finding of a little over 2oz of silver of late was a nice find

If you know what your name was as a dragon, how did you figure it out?

I'll never know my true name, so I just gave myself a name I feel fits my being.

(Luunaathh)

I'll never know my true name, so I just gave myself a name I feel fits my being.

same here

Memories of my adoptive dragon father giving it to me

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i honestly just gave Adel the first name that popped into my mind, Adel probably isn't even her true name or if she even has a name to start with

My second namehalf (onik) is like an identifier that I chose to take up. It was his, and I wanted to honor him by using it.

I somehow managed through meditation and astral travel to find and remember a vocalization of the "sound" my name was back then and carefully converted it to Latin letters. It's probably way off, but I'm happy with it and stuck with the description of it for decades now. (edited)

Ravensworn

Memories of my adoptive dragon father giving it to me

your story is super super interesting as i remember from the other server dragnultimatedragnyell

Ah okay, interesting.

10:32 pm

I want to know what mine was, even if we didn’t quite have traditional names— as I mentioned, our language worked more like whales.

I already somehow knew it naturally, but confirmed it with a past life regression (meditation basically)

when it came to Ezsthia, that name just came to me while i was trying to piece together who and what she is

Mine just kind of came to me. Though, I did recently realize it's actually just an approximation of my true name, my true name's pronunciation is basically impossible to pronounce with human vocal organs.

"Auuulltthuunnuuaall" is the word for "void" upon my home world, which is where I got Alaph's placeholder name from.

(Luunaathh)

"Auuulltthuunnuuaall" is the word for "void" upon my home world, which is where I got Alaph's placeholder name from.

fascinating

Our was given to us by the townsfolk due to our shapeshifting ability, so I'm curious what it would've been if circumstances were different

My true name upon home actually sounds something like "Veiiithheiiirraa" which means star, "Veiiithhiiillaassthh", which means stardust, "Viiirrthhaallaakk", which means galaxy, and "Siiithheiiillaaviiirr", which means celestial. I'm not entirely sure which of those words my true name sounds like, since again, I'll never know my true name upon home.

Ah, interesting!

10:45 pm

The nicknames I’ve given my dragonself and my mate are Nimbus and Gloom respectively— not to say she was a gloomy dragon, but that she could breathe fog and was darkly colored.

My true name is closer to "Auulltthuunnuuaall" than "Auuthhiiiviiirrokk, though Luunaathh won't know my name due to the nature of our draconity.

10:52 pm

Another fun fact: Luunaathh, myself, Vouulluunnkkeiiithh, and Kiiitthuullkkhaann aren't actually called "Vaallaannthhssaakkaaiii", it's more of a "species" placeholder name.

Ah, okay.

Our core (now dormant or reintegrated) figured out their draconic name through a dream, or something similar. It's hard to remember. None of us have been as easily able to figure out our names like that, since then.

Ah alright.

I was once ready to sleep and the voice of a little girl (or something like that) called out to me with a name and it felt so extremely like she / it is calling my name. I stood upright in bed after that one, as it sounded legit as if she was standing right next to my bedside.

Interesting.

geigersnap

I want to know what mine was, even if we didn’t quite have traditional names— as I mentioned, our language worked more like whales.

I kind of get this one. I also think that my name is like an interpretation, its more like a kind of symbol

Ah, okay.

I don't know if I can pronounce it right, either

Fair

Another question out of curiosity, what’s y’all’s method for unlocking memories or information? Personally, I try to induce shifts, meditate, listen to ambience, or daydream until something feels Right.

I've always taken it as a narrative challenge. I have certain scraps of memories that are 'the canon', material that everything else has to fit around. From there, I tried to build a coherent story of a life in a world. Coherency makes things feel right.

most of the time? I let it come to me as I go about my day. I don’t have memories as I’m concurrent life case, what I have is noema that I slowly discover as one would discover themself as one grew. Sometimes I meditate, or I just do mindfulness exercises which you can dub as meditation really also another way, I free draw. These are not all the time, and it’s sort of like me catching the shift, I let myself be in a trance and let my inner self guide the tool to pen out what I look like. Last time that happened I found my new form and had a great rush and feel like I’m on cloud nine for about two days. Which, I also haven’t had much big discovery for a long, long while as I literally grew up with my draconity. It was heady

I don't purposefully unlock any memories. My/our approach is closer to Ryuus where we just allow it to reach us any time. Go with the flow and if you feel something coming on, listening to it helps. But trying to induce memories or purposefully seek them out has only ever made it harder for us to access them.

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it’s sort of like taichi, or maybe water. The harder you fight or try to grab, the faster they slip away. But once you settle and wait? They slowly creep up upon you and can drown you if not careful

Yessss

geigersnap

If you know what your name was as a dragon, how did you figure it out?

Confusing story put simply, my draconic mother used my draconic half to force open a channel during one of my really dark times, because i was having a lot of trouble with trying to figure our name out. Which also makes it the only time i, personally as our human half, have directly experienced her voice. When she said it, it was like something slipping to the slot, and just felt like the world opened to me.

Ah, alright.

But to relate a different way to the question: my species does not name our young. The fledglings sort of "earn" them, by forming their core personality traits. When they become predominate, that trait is our name. (edited)

2:36 am

As such, lots of people end up with seemingly simple names, like "happy" or something, though it's common enough to also display more advanced and complicated traits. My name, Ksaa, translates to "Life", such as "Breath of Life".

geigersnap

If you know what your name was as a dragon, how did you figure it out?

I was deeply miserable in a math class and thinking self-denigratory thoughts about myself because I couldn't remember my own name, when all of a sudden I (passed out and?) had this hallucination (dream?) of being in a fishbowl with something unimaginably large looking at me through the glass. "You don't know your name?" asked the giant thing. "Your name is M--- Rakeela ----." I woke up having heard a three-part name, but having only retained the middle word. I can still only guess what the other two names were. (edited)

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Oh huh, interesting.

Rakeela

I was deeply miserable in a math class and thinking self-denigratory thoughts about myself because I couldn't remember my own name, when all of a sudden I (passed out and?) had this hallucination (dream?) of being in a fishbowl with something unimaginably large looking at me through the glass. "You don't know your name?" asked the giant thing. "Your name is M--- Rakeela ----." I woke up having heard a three-part name, but having only retained the middle word. I can still only guess what the other two names were. (edited)

it might be interesting to note that when it happened for me, it was in my civics class. Why does education system feature in so many awakenings???

I had already awakened, I just didn't know my true name. I'd been using wyrdryn online, a name I stole from a book that I'd read. (The Backyard Dragon) Using the wrong name like that really burned me up. "Rakeela" felt right and I've used it ever since.

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i have a canonical name that i never really liked, but using it now is particularly uncomfortable because my counterpart is evil and i'm probably neutral good, to use d&d alignments. i enjoyed spending time with non-draconic people at home and i used different names with different cultures, or sometimes different time periods (especially if they weren't especially long lived or prone to keeping detailed records) because i didn't want them all to know that i was a dragon. now, i just use the one that the people i was closest to knew me as, because it has better associations for me than the one i was given by my parents.

Speaking of names, I recently got my name legally changed from my birthname to my true dragon name, Aëto ✨ I've had this name for 11 years, and now I finally get to live fully under it, and use it in every aspect of my life. I feel at peace dragnloaf

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7:29 am

i actually kinda wanna change my name to Adel or Ezsthia one day

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Do you associate colours with your names

? I do ! Aëto feels green and yellow like the sun from behind a leaf dragncookie

[{Adel}]

i actually kinda wanna change my name to Adel or Ezsthia one day

I can only encourage you to do so

It has been a long process, but it's so so worth it !!

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I've considered getting mine legally changed, but tbh I'm kinda attached to my legal name so I probably won't.

Aëto (they/them)

Speaking of names, I recently got my name legally changed from my birthname to my true dragon name, Aëto ✨ I've had this name for 11 years, and now I finally get to live fully under it, and use it in every aspect of my life. I feel at peace dragnloaf

When i changed my name, i debated on several names for years. Ultimately chose my true (draconic) name, as well, purely because it's the most me.

Drakmanka

I've considered getting mine legally changed, but tbh I'm kinda attached to my legal name so I probably won't.

It really, really helps if you hate your name, to be fair.

Dragonne

When i changed my name, i debated on several names for years. Ultimately chose my true (draconic) name, as well, purely because it's the most me.

Exactly What else could I choose ? When there is this one name that sums up who I am this well ^^

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Aëto (they/them)

Do you associate colours with your names

? I do ! Aëto feels green and yellow like the sun from behind a leaf dragncookie

I think of my colors, for obvious reasons. These happen to be green and yellow, as well! Specifically, a dusky deep green and a dusky straw yellow.

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Aëto (they/them)

Do you associate colours with your names

? I do ! Aëto feels green and yellow like the sun from behind a leaf dragncookie

I think of a pale sage green and colors shifting when you watch a star from far away

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I tend to associate people with colors. I'm not sure why, but some people just end up being linked strongly to colors in my mind

that sounds like synesthesia

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12:19 pm

numbers and letters have colours to us, and people are small scenes. one person we knew, we saw them as bright green bamboo growing in red soil.

I've heard from more spiritual folks that auras and energies of a person can have color association as well

12:38 pm

But I personally know nothing about that

I doubt it’s spiritual, both due my spiritual ineptitude and how literal it can be, like someone is blue because their social media icon was blue or black because they have black hair. Sometimes it’s their favorite color, like my grandma equals yellow to me because she loves yellow

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12:55 pm

Other times I have absolutely no idea where the association came from

Fair enough, just thought it might be worth pointing out

Hmmm, I suppose I see myself as purple, but I generally don't associate people specifically with a single color. More like a combination of things like colors, sounds, shapes, seasons, and general feelings.

I do associate people with colors. And it's not a aura thing since I can't see that. More align with Illia's

Ember

that sounds like synesthesia

I was going to say the same, as i have some minor synesthesia effects, but it's not one of the normal ones.

there's sort of a level of impostor syndrome I have to deal with regarding this, tough to convince myself it's not just imagination or something. but sometimes I can see colours associated with another being. either related to personality or state of mind

Im working through imposter syndrome with my abilities as well... I wish you luck with this. Self acceptance and love is worth it

Ember

there's sort of a level of impostor syndrome I have to deal with regarding this, tough to convince myself it's not just imagination or something. but sometimes I can see colours associated with another being. either related to personality or state of mind

That's perfectly okay. I ahve something similar, i call being a "skeptic". I'm actually very skeptical, and do not attribute much automatically to anything that isn't grounded within reality already. I always analyze and ponder over everything else to try and double check how "real" a non-real feeling or anything is. This has actually allowed me to accomplish several very important spiritual things that most people cannot easily accomplish. So it is possible to maintain your state of disbelief while also believing.

Dragonne

That's perfectly okay. I ahve something similar, i call being a "skeptic". I'm actually very skeptical, and do not attribute much automatically to anything that isn't grounded within reality already. I always analyze and ponder over everything else to try and double check how "real" a non-real feeling or anything is. This has actually allowed me to accomplish several very important spiritual things that most people cannot easily accomplish. So it is possible to maintain your state of disbelief while also believing.

appreciate this encouragement

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Ember

appreciate this encouragement

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If you'd like an example of this duality, my now-spiritual-daughter and i initially met via a mutual friend, because she was having a lot of "being cursed" problems. By using our mutual friend as a "link" between us (as we were both mutually close to them, but not each other) i was able to do an reading on her. After studying what i felt for a while, i was able to parse out a lot of misinform they both had. She was not cursed, she was a System. Both headmates had distinct color patters to their identities, one blue and one white. Likewise, one was more dominate, the primary host, the blue. I was able to pick out several specific and small details that only that almost nobody knew about her, and reiterate them blindly. This is what proved to her the reading was valid.

that's really fascinating, and also glad you were able to do good!

Here is the account I wrote of "my" hatchling's hatching: https://drakmanka.wixsite.com/the-dorks/post/drakmanka-writes-the-tale-of-aquarius-hatching

Drakmanka Writes: The Tale of Aquarius' Hatching

I stood, burning from within from excitement, watching the egg rock and listening to the violent tapping of the hatchling fighting to get free. Somewhere within my mind, I remember my own hatching, and I know that this hatchling is just as excited as I am right now. For different reasons. Our minds are intertwined, I can sense his eager desire t...

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ok this is a question of the utmost importance. /lh what is y'all's size in height. Or length if you are a serpentine type. If you are a shapeshifter what is your smallest and what is your largest known sizes?

120' snout to tail, which at the shoulder... idk what that would equate to, I'd need to measure that one out

I’m not quite sure how long I was but in terms of height I think I was around 10’-13’ and had a ~30’ wingspan

Ryuu | 夢化竜

ok this is a question of the utmost importance. /lh what is y'all's size in height. Or length if you are a serpentine type. If you are a shapeshifter what is your smallest and what is your largest known sizes?

I personally am around 40 feet long from nose to tail tip. My tail is about half of that. I'm around 4 ft tall at the withers, but at full neck extension, i can get up to 6 ft at the top of my head. Wingspan is something between 60 to 80 ft, from wing tip to wing tip. Membrane depth is about 20 ft, front to back, at the torso, 30 ft at the widest parts. I weigh somewhere around 500 lbs, i think. Most R'Thakians are half again my measurements, as I'm a runt.

I am/was approximately: 40 feet from nose to tail tip (this is when I am laying down stretched out, at my absolute longest)(I am also unsure on this one, I think my tail continued to grow as I aged so at my oldest I might have been closer to 50 feet long), 15-17(?) feet tall at the eye (probably 8-10 inches taller than that at the tips of my horns, since they sweep upwards slightly), about 5 feet wide at my shoulders/hips, and with my widest (comfortable) stance my feet would be about 6.5 feet apart. My wingspan has varied over my life: when I was newly fledged, and about the first ~1000 years of my life, my wingspan was about 60-70 feet. However as I aged they continued to grow and at its largest my wingspan was over 100 feet, and my wings were enormous sails meant for soaring more than aerobatics.

We honestly have no clue exactly how tall we are, and there's no way we can reliably find that out (We can pick a random large animal as a comparison I suppose, but that's like looking at the surface of a pond and saying exactly how deep it is)

Dinocanid

We honestly have no clue exactly how tall we are, and there's no way we can reliably find that out (We can pick a random large animal as a comparison I suppose, but that's like looking at the surface of a pond and saying exactly how deep it is)

Agreed. It took me a really long time to actually figure out my size. And I'm very sure it's still not very accurate. Comparing sizes visually across lives or worldlines with no common references is... well, virtually impossible. But sometimes, we get inspiration from deep within!

I only figured out my approximate size because when I worked at Intel, we had these huge machines I worked with every day and the means to know how big they were. So I imagined how I would look standing beside them and used them as a base.

Ryuu | 夢化竜

ok this is a question of the utmost importance. /lh what is y'all's size in height. Or length if you are a serpentine type. If you are a shapeshifter what is your smallest and what is your largest known sizes?

Not sure how small really, but a galaxy is the largest.

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3:30 am

Actually, I had a memory of shifting down to a small size to see amoebas and cells I was specifically watching - eukaryotes, I think I had look up what I was remembering from a while ago (edited)

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Id really like to make a book about my experiences one day And a limited run tarot deck. I want to use the language i remember for the deck

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Oh also, a recommendation for any other space , galaxy, star, celestial etc related dragons- try to get genuine peices of astroids such as moldavite , tektite, and even just iron from astroids Its helped me connect to my spiritual self easier and remember things. Plus, projecting or protecting my energy is easier with those. If i could work with just those rocks I would but, they can be expensive ^^;

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Ryuu | 夢化竜

ok this is a question of the utmost importance. /lh what is y'all's size in height. Or length if you are a serpentine type. If you are a shapeshifter what is your smallest and what is your largest known sizes?

I don't know exactly, and certainly not in numbers, but I'd estimate between large dog and small horse? Maybe? Very precise measurements, I know. I have a long, lithe body, very long tail especially, but nothing more specific for length. I know I'm very small for my species, a real runt, my species is on average way bigger

Ryuu | 夢化竜

ok this is a question of the utmost importance. /lh what is y'all's size in height. Or length if you are a serpentine type. If you are a shapeshifter what is your smallest and what is your largest known sizes?

These are approximations, but: Almost 50 feet (15,5m) from snout to tailtip and 11.5 feet (3,5m) high from talon to snout. My wingspan was almost 63 feet (19m).

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I think I am something like 2m high at the shoulder But it's only a guess I might be smaller than that (edited)

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Ryuu | 夢化竜

ok this is a question of the utmost importance. /lh what is y'all's size in height. Or length if you are a serpentine type. If you are a shapeshifter what is your smallest and what is your largest known sizes?

for my kinsona on all fours, roughly 11 foot from bottom to top of head

it may be worth clarifying that things like moldavite and tektites form from the impacts of meteorites and aren't, themselves, part of anything from space. they're created by normal terrestrial silica being superheated by the impact and melting into glass. the droplet shape of a lot of tektites comes from the melted glass cooling as it's thrown away from the impact. that doesn't make them something less interesting, in my opinion. we'd love to have pieces of those and other unusual silicates, like libyan desert glass, which is another impactite, to use in some way. i wish fulgurites were aesthetically appealing to us. those are formed from lightning strikes, which is the type of magic i use. they're fairly drab, mostly just looking like a hollow stick of sandy material.

Yeah that's an important bit to note

11:08 am

If anyone wants some actual not-of-this-earth material then actual meteorites are probably going to be your only option

11:09 am

(Which can be quite small, and are more common for sale than you'd think)

Ember

it may be worth clarifying that things like moldavite and tektites form from the impacts of meteorites and aren't, themselves, part of anything from space. they're created by normal terrestrial silica being superheated by the impact and melting into glass. the droplet shape of a lot of tektites comes from the melted glass cooling as it's thrown away from the impact. that doesn't make them something less interesting, in my opinion. we'd love to have pieces of those and other unusual silicates, like libyan desert glass, which is another impactite, to use in some way. i wish fulgurites were aesthetically appealing to us. those are formed from lightning strikes, which is the type of magic i use. they're fairly drab, mostly just looking like a hollow stick of sandy material.

to me due to my personal connection I have with meteors this feels even more meaningful . Though, it's good to know this in general Thanks for clearing up the misinformation there I had no idea :0

we had a friend a while ago who was a jeweller and we would go to mineral shows with him. there were always lots of tektites for collectors, and quite a lot of pieces of meteorites available, since those are becoming popular as inlays for rings and things like that. i wish we'd been able to collect things more at the time, because some were very pretty. if you find something like that to go to, being able to look at things in person up close would be excellent for finding pieces you really resonate with. (edited)

it's not the same sort of thing, in that it's just a form of art, but i've always wished i could have one of the lichtenberg figures created by putting electricity through an acrylic blocks, as a reminder of my own preferred element at home. http://www.capturedlightning.com/photos/For_Sale/June04/Bases/DK60x75/DSCN0071a.jpg

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