Draconic Summit Spring 2023

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(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol) pinned a message to this channel. 6/3/2023 8:58 pm

Alright, I think I got everything set up server wise for the summit except for the summit schedule. If any of you see something that needs changing feel free to let my being know, I probably missed a thing or two honestly ;;W;;

12:25 am

By the way, you all can feel free to talk in these channels even though the summit hasn’t started yet!

You need to ask the panelists what panel channel they want viewers to talk in during their panel(s)

Ah, yeah, I do need to do that. (edited)

12:36 am

I’ll let you work on the schedule first though

Quail

Heads up, if any of you have someone you want to invite to the draconic summit this season, feel free to let my being know! I plan on making some exceptions to letting some individuals attend if that invite is approved by myself and the other staff here.

1:00 am

By the way, the peeps y'all want to invite don't have to be otherkind or plural!

I'll invite Kurama

You don’t know Kurama though???

That's the joke, lol

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wait you can’t do this to my poor heart. I miss(??) that old grump

Same ;;;;;;;;;W;;;;;;;;;;

4:32 am

Madara how could

Apologies, I did not mean to cause any level of upset or sadness.

Is okay lean bean

1:55 am

Also hell I'm actually really excited for the summit this year, rather than being incredibly nervous like last year... I'm just going to start talking in these channels before the event since I can't contain my excite lol.

(Luunaathh)

You don’t know Kurama though???

Noel: I'm right here! /hj (edited)

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~~oof pluralkit isn't active in these channels yet, I'll fix that~~

1:57 am

Okay the bot should work now

Test!

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: I’m so glad the draconic summit is hosted by such an amazing niii-niii like Luunaathh. (edited)

5:51 am

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: The leanest bean, queen of the niii-niii’s who love caterpillar and snail… (edited)

5:52 am

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: There is no bean leaner in all of the land, truly the queen niii-niii (edited)

5:54 am

I am just a lean bean… am niii-niii and am love snail and caterpillar sadblep

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: Campterbillar and snailb… (edited)

5:55 am

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: Those niii-niii’s are in love??? Wowb!! Amazing!!! (edited)

and that’s exactly how a divine storm draconian should talk

Vouulluunnkkeiiithh: I am your divine guardian yes… though that does not mean I cannot speak your lean bean language! (edited)

Okay fair

S O O N

3 days

I tried to make a new icon for the server, though it doesn’t seem to be as visible as I wanted…

10:36 pm

I’ll make another one

:O

The dragon being semi-transparent is what makes it hard to see for me

That’s fair, I’ll make something that isn’t as transparent or blending in the background.

I'm sorry I couldn't help a bit more, art-wise. If youd still like me to help with some sort of advertisement banner or something perhaps I could

10:54 pm

Ye olde Disorders make it very difficult to draw and focus lol

That’s okay! There’s no need to worry, I completely understand!

10:54 pm

Drawing is big difficult sometimes, I don’t blame you, I’m even having trouble coming up with server icon designs right now.

Tryin to draw an image I could use to advertise the summit when I go around posting links :>

Oki! That’s much appreciated! ^^

11:40 pm

Also wah, I can’t decide on an icon design so I’m just going to change the server icon back to a mountain scene and hopefully try to make an icon again tomorrow.

Oh nooo

You could always just commission someone here for a server icon, if they're willing to make one in two days.

Yeah, that is true

2:22 am

The offer is open to anyone who wants to draw an icon for the event server/summit social media accounts for 35$ USD (edited)

If it distracts me from this school essay I'm working on, I could do it lol. I'd need some sort of direction on what's wanted though

Luunaathh was thinking about the icon being of a white/light blue dragon of sorts.

Oof, after working on my essay more I have to head to bed. What's the planned composition of the icon? (Like a dragon, but doing what?) I'm not good at artistic interpretation sdfjsdjdfd. It's also fine if someone else figures something while I go to sleep, since we do need an icon by Thursday

we don't have time to do something more in-depth, feel free not to use this--but we tossed this together in case someone doesn't come up with something better

Thank you all for doing that! It’s much appreciated!

Dinocanid

Oof, after working on my essay more I have to head to bed. What's the planned composition of the icon? (Like a dragon, but doing what?) I'm not good at artistic interpretation sdfjsdjdfd. It's also fine if someone else figures something while I go to sleep, since we do need an icon by Thursday

I was thinking either a front facing or side facing headshot of the white/light blue dragon.

If someone has time, would you mind trying out the reaction roles in #deleted-channel? They seem to be working for staff, but we're troubleshooting to get them to work for attendees

Vouulluunkkeiiithh and I can try and figure something out! I’ll remove his staff role temporarily and he’ll see if the same thing happens when he chooses a role.

Thank you!

works for me

OML I love that sticker

(Luunaathh)

I was thinking either a front facing or side facing headshot of the white/light blue dragon.

I could give it a shot, were you thinking the dragon was more rough and scaly or smooth ?

Oki! I was thinking scaly

Ok, I can try

There’s no pressure to do such though, if you can’t draw the icon there are no worries!

Of course!

I’m not feeling all that well tonight, so I’m going to try and go to bed early. I’ll give regular attendees for the event a link sometime in the late morning or early afternoon, I’ll give you all a heads up about an hour before I do so.

Okay, I hope you can rest well

Thankie, I hope so as well ;;

(Luunaathh)

Heads up, if any of you have someone you want to invite to the draconic summit this season, feel free to let my being know! I plan on making some exceptions to letting some individuals attend if that invite is approved by myself and the other staff here.

I would like to advertise an invite to a Wings of Fire dragonkin/fictionkin server, if that is okay. I just joined it, but I feel like they might like to join and participate, if they learned of the Summit.

6:28 am

So I would need an invite for them if that would be permitted :>

Revolution Radio

I would like to advertise an invite to a Wings of Fire dragonkin/fictionkin server, if that is okay. I just joined it, but I feel like they might like to join and participate, if they learned of the Summit.

ohh could I get a invite link to that server? I know a couple WoF dragons

Yes, I could invite you :>

Revolution Radio

I would like to advertise an invite to a Wings of Fire dragonkin/fictionkin server, if that is okay. I just joined it, but I feel like they might like to join and participate, if they learned of the Summit.

Sure! You can advertise the WOF server link in #deleted-channel !

1:57 pm

Also I’ll go ahead and give the summit server invite link to regular attendees in about two hours! (edited)

alrighty! Looking forward to seeing the flow of people coming in heheh

Same here! voidcatblep

2:00 pm

Am excite

me too cx

2:00 pm

derg time is almost upon us :0

Dergconic sumbitt soon…

dergyonic subatomic

Dracgonbig subitt

i read dragonbig sbutti xD

Oh oofie XDDDD

i love it xD

New members incoming in a few minutes :)

Quail

4:07 pm

If only there was a quail summit also...

No we do not need a quail summit

(Auullthhuunnaakk)

New members incoming in a few minutes :)

New members arriving ^.=.^ (edited)

Hi all

Hey there

mlems Henlo all!

4:28 pm

Nothing major is happening until Friday, so today is just for getting everyone into the event server before the opening ceremonies so there’s no rush!

4:29 pm

I’ll probably hop in one of the voice channels in a little bit lookbean

Nice to see everyone either way

Agreed

I’m hanging out in one of the voice channels if anyone wants to hang out! My brain is a little fried today though so I may not be super talkative

I get off work in a few hours and then maybe I can hang out some here Dragonheart

Oki! Sounds good!

Hello everydragon! I'm exited for the weekend raarroz

Henlo!

6:08 pm

^ Yknow what we need? This emoji but it's a dragon doing da wiggles

one of my favorite things about the dragon community is how diverse we are

6:44 pm

no two dragons are the same and I think that’s beautiful

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Agreed! Everyone in the draconic community has their own unique experiences and I think that’s a wonderful thing.

Yeah!!

Many elitists in the community believe that we all need to fit into defined categories, though they’re the foolish ones. It’s always best to be open to new ideas and experiences rather than just stick to strict categories.

Hello ^^

Henlo!

Hi everyone, I'd like to start by saying it's a pleasure to be here and I'm looking forward to this weekend!

Hey there! I’m glad that you’re looking forward to the weekend! ^.=.^

With the chance of sounding really old, or out of touch, it's my first discord event (ever) after coming back to the community last summer. I missed the first edition, but did listen to the recordings and I was very happy when I heard about this edition. (edited)

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No worries, we hope you enjoy the event this weekend :)

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8:05 pm

Hey yall

Henlo!

Greetings

That moment when your weekend is pretty full already and you're desperately trying to re-plan stuff so it goes around the panels. dragnsweat

I really hate my social life in moments like this, haha.

Oh mood, I’m kind of busy this weekend so I need to use my time right ;;

I do have to compliment on the schedule being very Europe-friendly. That was probably thought of, but it's worth saying.

Ye! We tried our best to make sure most of the panels weren’t missed in non-US time zones

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looks like discord has color themes now, pretty sweet

I noticed that as well

(Luunaathh)

Ye! We tried our best to make sure most of the panels weren’t missed in non-US time zones

I'm still looking at a 6am start here tho KEKW

It's alright, you managed to hit most timezones regardless which is better than most manage!

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10:38 pm

Also, howdy all.

Henlo!

Hi there!

Hey all ^..^

i honestly thought that was a round frog

I don’t blame you for seeing that, I can see it as well.

hey all !! i havent been super active in kin spaces recently but im v excited for the summit this year

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No worries, we're happy to have you here :)

Hey hey

Greetings

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I never made a sound that sounds like the letters "rawr" or "roar" put together. If anything my "roars" sound like deep, loud rumblings, crashing lightning, or screams.

hello

Hello, nice to meet you :)

awww, danke. You too Auuthh

11:53 pm

was told about this place, thought I would come and check it out, maybe meet some fellow scaletypes

Many have found that the summit and its affiliated servers are open minded and welcoming places, so hopefully you find that the event (or the other servers if you wish to join) are welcoming to you as well.

hope so. Sounds like they try to make this place free as possible from the bluhness of the world

11:58 pm

y'all run other servers as well?

We want to make a nice event to escape from the harshness of the world in general and the harshness of the dragonkin community. Sadly, far too many draconic spaces have a reputation for promoting elitist behavior, toxicity, and general aggression towards others who have experiences with draconity closed minded individuals don't agree with. So, we try to make this event one with no elitism or unwarranted grilling.

12:00 am

Luunaathh runs the celestial spire, draconic basin, lunarlight ruins, and sanctuary beyond the mists. She's mist active in celestial spire though.

aye, quite a challenge in some ways, but... having that in place helps foster a place for folks to get together who aren't that way

(Auullthhuunnaakk)

I never made a sound that sounds like the letters "rawr" or "roar" put together. If anything my "roars" sound like deep, loud rumblings, crashing lightning, or screams.

rawr is fun, tho

wow, didn't know about all those..

Luunaathh has time to be active discord most of the times, so she likes making community spaces. It's also partly because she's sick and tired of all the elitism in the otherkind communities and wishes to make spaces where that kind of bullshit doesn't fly.

12:03 am

The links to those discord servers and the descriptions on them are linked in #deleted-channel

elitism has spread to the mainstream sadly... the world's forgotten to keep love and respect amidst disagreement and have meaningful discussion about things

Yeah, people have also forgotten to respect the experiences and beliefs of others.

I may be a little low in the experience department, I fear

No worries

12:09 am

Though yeah, alterhuman spaces are supposed create an open minded and welcoming environment for others to question themselves, ask for advice, and have productive conversations with others. Sadly though, most alterhuman spaces instead scorn others for having unique, different, or uncommon experiences and make them feel unwelcome in the community for such. It's saddening honestly.

yea... lot of the hateful behavior kinda leaves me mostly "signed out", you could say. The irony is some of the folks out there claiming to be the most "inclusive" are quick to write off someone of a different view/belief system/etc. But figured I would give this a shot to maybe meet some decent folk

Many dragonkin and draconic spaces follow in the same direction sadly. Elitist dragonkin push those who have unique experiences with draconity out of the community and make them feel awful for simply expressing themselves and their experiences. The summit and its related servers don't tolerate the common closed mindedness and elitism of the dragonkin community.

you're Inuit eh? That's pretty neat, although honestly thought that was just an Alaska and N Canada thing

My human identity is, I'm actually Luunaathh's guardian upon our home world.

12:13 am

Whether my human identity has merit to it or not is up to you to decide. I won't directly claim if it's real or not, since "my spectral guardian from another world exists on this earth also" extends in extraordinary claims territory for some. (edited)

12:14 am

Luunaathh herself is indigenous Mesoamerican/Mexica as a human though.

she is my neighbor to the south then

12:18 am

sounds like you and Luunaathh are close in a lot of ways

I am her mate upon home and her guardian upon this earth, so yes, we are very close :)

12:19 am

She doesn't know my actual name, though regardless, we're still very close.

awwwwwww. Who we are here is a form of manifestation of who we are, but as I see it, this life is temporary and not all there is to see, so to speak

12:20 am

a name with many double vowels I am sure. >>;=)

"Auuthhiiiviiirrokk" is a sort of placeholder name. It's not my real name. Our complex language upon home which Luunaathh has translated as "Draaiiithhaaiiillkkaaiiinniiiuunn" is very difficult for her to remember, and understandably so. (edited)

12:22 am

The actual letters in our langauge contain many repeating vowels and letters as well.

inventers of the ümlaut, eh?

12:24 am

hopefully maybe you'd not mind me calling you Auuthh, Auth, or even Aüthh

Well, we just have a very complex language which likes double lettering, it can look silly to some.

12:24 am

Also I don't mind at all :)

12:24 am

Those who know my being well call my being "Alaph".

very vowelly, you'd have done well in Hawaii (tad warmer than RU too)

So it seems :)

12:27 am

I am just very simple in essence, I love quail and the love of my life, that is all.

12:27 am

like the little birdies eh? you have coops and raise them?

12:30 am

I'm fairly uneventful myself. Not a lot of tales of grandeure

12:31 am

and WAY too cold for tropical dragons, like myself. Ideally, I'd be in Costa Rica, Brazil or the Congo, but here is reasonably close enough, although the blazing hot is rough on the current unarmored hide

Sometimes not having complex attributes or tales about oneself is a good thing.

I travel when I can, typically to visit far-spread friends... that's my biggest thing

Luunaathh currently lives in South Texas where it is blazingly hot and humid, though she does occasionally see a nice storm. Upon home Luunaathh was gifted the element of the storm by the divine storm entity or our world, so she loves them very much.

I can show pictures of the storms lookbean

oh, she's on this side of the border then.. so a REAL close neighbor... well, close as things get in TX anyway

I’m about a two hour drive from the border of Mexico and it’s kind of cool actually!

y'all had storms down there? Lightning is my element, I strangely like it... although touching a prong in a breaker box... eh... not something I want to do every day (something done recently, oops)

12:35 am

yea, I didn't order this coolness, Lunath... supposed to be 40s at night this weekend friend tells me

I much prefer cold weather over hot honestly… I would live in Antarctica if I could

oh guk, I would die. I don't do well in temps below 60. I seem to only be of a mesothermic sort... I don't retain warmth well at all. <90 gets to also be trouble, though... my best operating temp is a small range you could say

12:39 am

friend of mine in NH sent me pic of OODLES of snow outside the window down the driveway the other day, you'da been all over that hehe

I absolutely love snow, ice, and glaciers… It’s part of why I’m so excited to move to Washington state at the end of the year.

12:40 am

Also the cold isn’t for everyone, just like the heat isn’t for everyone and that’s okay! Everyone has their preferences.

I like the LOOK of all that, but paws and feetpaws get painful and unusable, so I try to avoid it. You'll like WA, it's pretty up there. If you ever get a chance, roll Hwy 410 from Yakima to.. Enumclaw I think is where that ends, SUPER nice drive

I’m moving to the mount Rainer area in a mountain town near snoqualmie pass, it’s very beautiful there!

12:42 am

I visited extended earth family in Enumclaw before and I loved seeing Mount Rainier poke through the clouds.

oh, you'll be right in that area anyway, cool! Better there than the city

12:43 am

took that back road once getting to Seattle, was nice, although 90 is nice too. It's just a summer thing for me because... yea, warm and stuff

Yeah… I’ve heard Seattle is very dangerous nowadays. My earth mother grew up there and lived there in parts of her adulthood, she always tells my being that it’s not the same place it was in the 80’s and 90’s. (edited)

12:43 am

She was born in Albuquerque though

probably moreso now with the I-5 economy being what it is. 2017 is the last time I rolled through there via coming back from Vancouver Island

I've never been to Vancouver island... The farthest I've gone in Washington state is past Olympia into Shelton.

V.I. is BC, so...

I do want to visit Heliotrope ridge trail and the cascades mountain range... though that will be difficult since I can't drive due to disability, lmao. (edited)

12:46 am

Also ah, I see.

Van Island is the big island looks like comes off the corner of WA

Ah, I should probably give it a visit one of these days if I can arrange transportation!

would be a good island nation of Draconia, if we but overthrow it properly

Vancouver island will become derg island

aye, not being able to drive makes it rough, but if you can get to one of the ferries, public trans in Victoria or Nanaimo is a thing

Yeah, I'm definitely researching how the public transit system statewide works in any case.

always feel like in the US, if you aren't in a larger city, Uber's about the next cheapest route to getting around

nods yeah, though I've heard... horror stories about services like uber and lyft.

but I hope you get a chance to travel when you can. Dragons and travel is a need for us...

Thankie! Since the town I'm moving to is surrounded by mountains I shouldn't have much of an issue finding good spots in nature where I can feel more draconic!

(Luunaathh)

Sure! You can advertise the WOF server link in #deleted-channel !

Oh I meant the other way around, like perhaps invite a few of them here?

I'd be looking for places to go skinny dipping hehe

12:52 am

you're also in TX, so you know how flat we got it here... I love going to or driving through the mtny states

Revolution Radio

Oh I meant the other way around, like perhaps invite a few of them here?

Oh, sure!

12:53 am

As long as they DM either myself or you asking for the invite!

KeystoneDarkJade

you're also in TX, so you know how flat we got it here... I love going to or driving through the mtny states

Well, West Texas is where you need to go for mountains and stuff, that part of Texas is actually beautiful when there's a good rainstorm or thunderstorm.

12:55 am

I actually went to Enchanted Rock State park two weekends ago and it was a lot of fun! I actually need to share all the pictures I took in the servers I'm in.

12:57 am

Texas hill country is actually really nice as well, even if there aren't any mountains.

I'm about as close to the mountains in NE Alabama as I am the ones in W TX >>:=p

Oh oofie

hill country should be very blubonnety right about now

Yeah, the bluebonnets have started to bloom! They're already in full bloom here in my area.

there's some at the corner of the 2 state hwys here in town, and those one ppl's yard that always have them

1:06 am

they started here those last couple of days in Feb, pretty early... and what week before last, the june bugs exploded hehe

I always support planting wildflowers, I need to grow some bluebonnets of my own actually... though then again, I will have moved away to Washington state by then.

1:07 am

Gotta love the june bugs

not sure if bluebonnets could survive up there, but could try it

1:07 am

I think there may be flowers in the bluebonnet family that are built more for cold

I definitely don't think they would survive, the climate is too cold and unpredictable in March/April.

1:07 am

Yeah, lupine flowers

hmmm, wolf flowers eh?

They bloom all over the Mount Rainier and the cascades are in the summer I think

1:08 am

I actually think that's what they're named after!

don't remember seeing anything like that, but coulda been a time of year thing. If there's ones native up there, those should do well in the yard

1:10 am

you got me wanting to run up to BC again...

They’re beautiful blooms! I need to arrange transportation to mount Rainier one of these days and sit in the lupine meadows.

1:11 am

Well, I always encourage a good visit to the mountains! XD

would be happy to sit with you prrrrrrrrrrrrrr that's a nice picture of them

I wish I could actually hike Mount Rainier itself though I have too many limits for that ;;W;;

awwww Lunath... meeps

does a mlem

1:17 am

At least I'll have some regular mountains to hang out in though!

being around them is still nice

1:18 am

oh, could show you a mtntop pic if you like. One I took out in NC

Sure! You can share the picture in the #photo-nest

alright, give me a little bit here. I messed around and sat here talking to y'all nibbling on tortilla chips instead of eating halfway real food, so gonna warm up something real quick, and I'll find that pic

No worries! Take your time!

(Luunaathh)

As long as they DM either myself or you asking for the invite!

Okay, thanks

Come on guys let's watch the movie :P @here

movie?

🔊voice chat: Movie

Just started! The credits come before the movie starts on this one so y'all got a few minutes before you've missed anything

didn't know movie was a thing

1:33 am

I have a blender older than that one LOL

Ye! The plan is to have one each night of the con

perhaps I Am Dragon will sneak in there or one of the DragonHearts

we can look into those for future summits, but for rn our set-up only works for dvds we own and pop in our computer

Lunath, pic is in there now >>;=)

1:42 am

ah OK, Nova. Still should be interesting, I'm sure

Hey!

ewwooo

Hey, Umber!

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Evening

Good evening!

2:10 am

so many dragonssss

Many of them dragoncry

so many

Umber

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this gif looks so much better on mobile why is it so lame on pc DarkstalkerSad

I'm on a walk right now and the air smells delicious like campfire (edited)

oooooooooooo

That’s my favorite hhg

Rrwr

mrur!

Rawr!

*le rer*

:O

Me making my silly little dragon noises

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Snail tanks are all clean, now I'm going to try and organize the rest of my room and maybe clean it up a little.

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you've pet snails?

Yep! My snails are aquatic ones though, I don't have any land snails (yet)

ah, neat

3:18 am

I sometimes forget water-based snails are a thing. Wildest land ones are those mega African ones which're bigger than all get out

3:19 am

had a pet wasp here in the lair for a day and a half till I could catch it

did u name it owo

nah, I don't name them

dang :/

I have "pet" snails that came with my live plants. They do a wonderful job of keeping the algae and fish waste under control, and I didn't even have to pay for them! (Bladder snails)

fed it a couple of drops of water yesterday, but flew off and taunted me from by the ceiling... got it again this morning and gave it a little sweet treat, then stayed with me to get it outside

3:22 am

once I befriend them, they don't want to leave

I always recommend snails for fishtanks! Yeah, some of them may breed and make more snails, though that's not a bad thing in my view, it just means you have more precious beans!

Reminds me, I still wanna get a mystery snail for my tank

hmmm, good to have like placos eh?

Yush! Except they don't get 14 inches long lmao

Yep! They eat algae and extra fish food that falls to the ground

placos can get a lot bigger if in the right place

KeystoneDarkJade

once I befriend them, they don't want to leave

tbh id only do this with teeny little bumblebees

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We ended up getting bladder snails as hitchhikers on plants on our aquarium too, but they bred like crazy. So we ended up acquiring assassin snails which honestly are now our favorite thing in the tank

I carried a "fierce" British Columbia wasp for like 30 mins through a Wal Mart store up there once (found it on the paper towels in the bathroom but we were still shopping)

3:26 am

assassin snails... what the heck?

3:28 am

they're about the size of a thumbnail and they eat other snails (edited)

interesting shell

We started out with 2 and these guys don't breed as fast as the others, but we still now have 15ish of them

3:30 am

and no bladder snails

I got an assassin snail for the same reason but she got eaten by one of my corydoras. So I let the bladder snails do their thing and after the initial population spike they leveled off and there's "only" about 20 of them in my 30 gallon tank now

We didn't know corys would go for these guys;; Ours have been leaving them alone

I found out the hard way years ago that Corys will predate snails, but I thought my assassin snail would be quick enough (relatively speaking) and my Cory's well fed enough... but alas.

I would love to have terrestrial snails, but I have yet to find someone in California willing to sell me a Californian snail. In the United States, many states prohibit trade of terrestrial snails across state border, to prevent invasive issues etc. GAL (giant african land snail) I believe are illegal here to obtain. Funny how it seems to never apply to aquatic snails, even though Apple and Mystery snails have quite the potential for habitat destruction. I think the fact it gets cold enough in the winter may deter them from thriving, if released, however. That, and the fact that their eggs are easily culled in aquaria. Assassin snails, malaysian trumpet snails, ramshorn snails, pond snails (Lymneae genus), bladder snails, mystery snails and potentially a few more, are all species we have in our aquariums.

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didn't realize snails came in such variety

There is much variety in snails!

Absolutely :>

Mollusks are some of the oldest species on earth I believe

Honorable mention to those deep-sea beauties with the iron shells and red foot

There’s a snail that has a shell made of iron? lookbean

https://www.deviantart.com/stefantistu/art/Volcano-snail-artist-Stefan-Tistu-873123492

4:15 am

Here is an image of one

4:16 am

Or rather a piece of art, but still, it's how the snail looks IRL as well

A bean!!!

4:18 am

I actually didn’t know volcano snails had shells made of iron, that’s epic

the dragon of snails

4:22 am

goodness, that's pretty crazy. Imagine running across one of those in an on-fire alley

I didn't arrive with the opening bell, but I'm here now. Hello! I wanted to say hi somewhere, but if people are talking snails I'll slink away, too.

hello and welcome. Not reason to slink away

4:24 am

Welcome welcome

Rakeela

I didn't arrive with the opening bell, but I'm here now. Hello! I wanted to say hi somewhere, but if people are talking snails I'll slink away, too.

Somewhat similar for me. I'm here, dont have much to say about snails (though cute) and have little else to talk about presently! Thus, i do the lurk.

Hey hey everyone. rubs his face Trying to stay awake. Love the snorls.

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Nix

Hey hey everyone. rubs his face Trying to stay awake. Love the snorls.

Hey, Nix

Hey Xy. How is?

It is it basically just is (edited)

I feel that, all too much right now.

well y'all.. really getting tired here, afraid I'm going to have to find a mound of soft things to settle into

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No worries! I hope you’re able to get some good rest!

thanks Lünäthh. Hope everybody has a good night

Goodnight

KeystoneDarkJade

well y'all.. really getting tired here, afraid I'm going to have to find a mound of soft things to settle into

Feel you. Got to get to bed early tonight, because my doctor's appointment tomorrow will make me miss the entirety of day 1!

oh no Dragonne. I hope the appt goes well, and that you at least are seeing a good Dracologist

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Gonna be washing the car tomorrow, and might go to a book sale as well. Hopefully I can catch some stuff on Saturday and Sunday tho! And I'll be chatting and such here of course. Thinking of writing something about my experiences being draconic in honor of the Summit. @Guardian where would be a good place to post a link to such a piece? I'd be posting it to my personal blog.

My best assumption would be any of these #draconic-experiences-1 channels, but more input is welcome too, as I am just here to help

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Yup, that's an excellent place for it! (edited)

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If I wrote a bestseller, I think I would use some of the funds to move to Alaska for a season. I want to experience the constant darkness.

Yeah, it’d be nice to live in a dark and cold climate.

I just want a nice, thermally-stable, deep dark cave I can go coil up in when I need to.

I went into a lava cave once and turning the lights off for a minute to have pitch black was awesome

Illia

I went into a lava cave once and turning the lights off for a minute to have pitch black was awesome

What's a lava cave?

Also called lava tubes. They're hollow tubes where lava once flowed through and left behind a really rad, deep tunnel/cave that you can go crawl in.

Yup!

I'd really like to move somewhere where it stays around 50-76 degrees all year tbh. Maybe a few days in the 80s but nothing higher than that. (Farenheit)

6:48 am

Currently, where I live, I would like to say at least half the year is Very Hot

I have medical conditions that give me various issues with heat and sun so summer turns me into a half blind puddle of miserable sweat. I hate summer

I used to really hate heat, but last year I was okay with it. I'm cautiously optimistic about next summer.

I just physically cannot tolerate it

i feel that, i want to enjoy summer but it needs to be really mild for me to do so

we struggle with hot weather and light, too.

cronchy

i feel that, i want to enjoy summer but it needs to be really mild for me to do so

Same here. I do want to like summer, but the summers here just get unbearably hot

i prefer cold tbh, the harpy side of me is a snowy owl and i suspect thats a factor (edited)

Canada is nice during summer ngl

Well, until it goes up to 30-35 degrees Celsius xD

Actually doesnt happen often Being near the lakes makes it better

I’m mostly talking about the usual weather where I live. I’m Canadian too ^.=.^;

Oop :0

It’s why I hate summer here lol

Where I live during summer it can even be 28-30 C at night

7:38 am

Truly miserable lol

Lmao Im practically nocturnal during summer

Guh same xD sometimes it helps but otherwise not. I’m sensitive to heat though so even 20 Celsius gets too much sometimes.

I'm practically nocturnal now

I am too but only due to bad sleep schedules. I’ll be a day derg again eventually xD

I'm attempting to fix mine slowly

7:40 am

I go to bed at like 4-6 AM and wake up around noon lol

7:40 am

It's pretty annoying

7:40 am

But like, it works

Ugh I wish I could stay like this and jus never sleep basically excepttttt... school

Ah the joys of having to be present for academia /s

qwq I only really enjoy my math class but its still boring as hec

I used to like math quite a bit

Its my fav subject and im a total math nerd tbh- Tho im still not very great at mental math and subtraction-

I’m totally nocturnal, noon is relatively early for me to wake up

Khéna (Ze/Zim/Zir)

I am too but only due to bad sleep schedules. I’ll be a day derg again eventually xD

I've seen a few times the word derg used, what does it mean :3 ?

Smae tbh- I usually wake up around 2-3 pm

Aëto (they/them)

I've seen a few times the word derg used, what does it mean :3 ?

Is jus a silly way to say dragon I fink dumbdergxp

Aëto (they/them)

I've seen a few times the word derg used, what does it mean :3 ?

It’s another word for dragon! I also say dergy cx

7:53 am

Little silly derg dergy derg word bleps

Mrur!

Prrrrrt! blep

Aëto (they/them)

I've seen a few times the word derg used, what does it mean :3 ?

Yes, it's a way to say "Dragon" but not everyone likes it lol

7:56 am

~~I kind of hate it but I just keep my mouth shut because I know people are having fun~~

Oh, I see, thanks everyone :3 !

Revolution Radio

~~I kind of hate it but I just keep my mouth shut because I know people are having fun~~

Im curious why now-

I just dont like it

8:10 am

Never really have, idk

8:10 am

Its not deep xd

Good thing to keep in mind! I won’t refer to you that way when I get playful. Thanks for sharing Rev!

Aw no worries, you can still use it around me and about me if you want to

8:12 am

I just dont personally Use It

Valid

And for those who don't know, yet another way to say dragon is "drgn".

No need for vowels uvu

Devolving of "Dragon" -> derg -> drgn -> dg -> d ->

8:21 am

He's shrinking, help him

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Revolution Radio

Devolving of "Dragon" -> derg -> drgn -> dg -> d ->

d g n (edited)

He's growing again

Dgen

Goodmorning lovely dragons, drgns, d’s and dergs. (edited)

Hedoooo

dungeons & dragons & and diners & drive ins & dives (edited)

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That sounds like a good time.

i realise i wrote drives twice

Dives makes it even better.

Drive or dive

SeaWing activities, dive :3

specific pacifistic pacificists

Revolution Radio

salty wet sponge

I wish I was

9:04 am

spogne

Mrawr!

Good early morning everyone, it’s storming here where I live so I’m staying up and listening to the lovely storm sounds!

gmorning!!

10:44 am

also l u c k y

Good morning. That sounds lovely indeed :>

10:48 am

It's been very rainy where I live lately

Awesome! I love rainy weather

10:51 am

I wish I could sit outside in the storm and watch the lightning, though it’s probably not the best idea at the moment XD

As long as it's safe :o

(Luunaathh)

Good early morning everyone, it’s storming here where I live so I’m staying up and listening to the lovely storm sounds!

Good afternoon hehe

i just got a movie trailer ad for the movie trailer i'm watching

2 hours

;o

Morning guys, happy first day of the Summit! :3c

morning!! looking forward to the opening ceremony cx

1:47 pm

hope you've been having an okay morning so far

I'm putting in a herculean effort to get the last few hours of my homework done xD

oh, oof xD Wishing you the best with that!!

Literally trying to leave work earlier so I can at least attend the opening ceremony. dragnsweat

stretches and few things pop in his old self buongiorno, y'all

2:01 pm

opening ceremony? when's that going on?

you can check the schedule in #summit-schedule c:

Whoop whoop, happy Summit!

PyroTalons

I'm putting in a herculean effort to get the last few hours of my homework done xD

Good luck!

Thank these past 3 years for being able to work from home. I can perfectly send emails while attending, sure.. no distraction at all, nope... dragncookie

That's going to be me all day too ><

Good luck to everyone that is starting their workday.

I have work from 3pm to 11pm all weekend, so I'm going to miss mostly everything

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2:39 pm

Oh sunday is 2pm to 10pm looks like, but still pretty much all day

aww Dino. hope you can still come visit the other times

2:45 pm

what room is the ceremony thing?

I have 2 parties and a birthday planned this weekend that are now considered a nuisance. dragnangry

oh my

Curse ye fibers of the interwebs. Happy start of the summit everyone, nonetheless! (edited)

Such a social dragoness aren't you. And not your own fledglingday, I gather?

Nah, nephew of mine.

awww, young one?

Yuh, 3 years old.

Hey everyone! Already 4.12 PM here, so looking forward to a wonderful evening full of exciting panels and discussions! dragngrimace

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Hey fellow timezone-inhabitant.

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aww, toddlerhood is neat ages. Sometimes makes me wish I had fledglings

, Good morning everyone 10:17 AM for me right now

I guess Lunath will let us know when things are "good to go" and where to go?

If all is well it should be in Voice Presentations 1 + #panel-discussion-1

alrighty. Didn't know where it was going to be at, appreciate it

Sure thing! We still got another 40 mins until it's scheduled to start so

The schedule says the next panel is 2 hours away for me dkjfksdjdf

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oh, the schedule said 10 (23m ago)

You're right we stand corrected--it's slotted for 12pm so it's 1.5 hours away

KeystoneDarkJade

oh, the schedule said 10 (23m ago)

That was the opening ceremony, which got posted in text-form in the #summit-announcements

oh OK. Guess I was expecting a huge to-do on that, although she mighta said more than there if not for the 'net thing

The opening ceremonies are usually short and chill, just to kick everything off

3:30 pm

The second panel of the day is ours and that one is premiering on the con's YT dragnloaf

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The title of the panel highly intrigues me! Looking forward to it.

oh, stuff to keep up with on YT also?

3:33 pm

halfway trying to keep up with what everybody's talking about

We'll make it easy when the time comes! If you'd like panel pings, there's a role for it in #deleted-channel so you'll get pinged for panel announcements

guess I'm not so much an advanced Discorder to know how some of all that stuff works

The rawr'ring 20's ^..^

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yes

4:01 pm

and hello KinDD

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4:02 pm

looks like I'll be more around today. Was supposed to go do some more paralegal learning from my pastor (he's also an attorney oddly enough), but today fell out on that

Alright, my internet is working better now so the discussion panel should go smoothly!

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let's hope it stays more bueno then

Nice!! Just in time dragnheart

@Bluefire in response to the even slower chat, this works better; Yes, Dutch Dragons exist. we were with quite a few back in the 00's and early 10's, I hosted a few physical meetings along with Belgium Otherkin, but eventually left the community for some time and got out of touch with most. Happy to see one again though!

I'm so so glad to hear some dragons dragnmlem

! I've never met any dragon before dragnsad

I'm overjoyed to be here ^^ (I will probably have to leave the panel soon, but I will join for the others !)

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awww Aëto. Glad you could come then.

Akir'ischa

@Bluefire in response to the even slower chat, this works better; Yes, Dutch Dragons exist. we were with quite a few back in the 00's and early 10's, I hosted a few physical meetings along with Belgium Otherkin, but eventually left the community for some time and got out of touch with most. Happy to see one again though!

Ooooh that sounds great. Personally, I don't know any in the Netherlands and Belgium. Most of the dragon friends I have the opportunity to visit live in Germany. (edited)

I legitimately have no idea what the current status is on the Benelux Otherkin/Dragonkin community, but I fear we all just got absorbed into the international communities and abandoned all local communication channels.

Akir'ischa

I legitimately have no idea what the current status is on the Benelux Otherkin/Dragonkin community, but I fear we all just got absorbed into the international communities and abandoned all local communication channels.

With how few there are, makes a lot of sense. I feel it's hard to find enough people to sustain a Benelux dragon community.

We tried, and it was fun for as long as it lasted. But I guess bumping into eachother on discord works too, hah.

I guess the bumping into each other took 3 years for me, then :P

The fault is on me as well for that part then, I only rejoined the community this summer again.

I always thought there should be Dutch dragons around, but probably very few open up about that since there aren't really any resources in Dutch. I did actually make a Dutch site with some basic info on there just in case someone were to stumble across it.

Well, here is a German derg!

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With the ease we learn/speak/type English, a Dutch site was never worth it. But good on you for starting one! I know of 4 dragonkin, excluding myself, "onder de rivieren" so to speak, haha.

KinDD

Well, here is a German derg!

Hi fren!

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I also have been active in a local German Otherkin community for the first years of my awakening process (to say it that way), then I pulled out completly and "am back" since around 1 year.

KinDD

I also have been active in a local German Otherkin community for the first years of my awakening process (to say it that way), then I pulled out completly and "am back" since around 1 year.

Welcome back as well then!

ty!

Freed from my coils of prior obligation! Con is on! :D I hope everyone is having a good time!

Yay!

6:43 pm

We're all in voice chat right now describing our experiences

yes, KinDD, wilkommen >>;=)

6:46 pm

OK, I had to laugh... friend of mine from Canada msgs me asking if I was going to wear green today.. I'm like... hello, I'm in jade all the time.

KinDD

Well, here is a German derg!

Same <3

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enters lobby, looks for registration I'm late bc work.. summit up!

Hello everyone!

heeeyy!

Hey there <3

Moar dergs!

Hi there! Better late than never.

fiddles con badge over horns Yeah! I'm still setting up technology

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I decided the build-in mic of my laptop should be suffice, sorry for everyone that has to listen to the terrible quality, haha.

7:35 pm

I'll do better next time dragncookie

Akir'ischa

I decided the build-in mic of my laptop should be suffice, sorry for everyone that has to listen to the terrible quality, haha.

Depends on the laptop. My 2013 Macbook's was excellent. My 2020 HP however... x...x

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Technology goes backwards sometimes.

A lot of older technology is actually better than modern day technology surprisingly.

8:36 pm

I still miss things like physical radios, walkmans, etc.

8:36 pm

and VHS and DVD

Nowadays it's all planned obsolescence.

I keep a floppy disk around for the sake of the joke that some students react to it with "hey, you have a real life save icon!". And then I feel old. (edited)

Oh, speaking of physical... #shiny-nest

9:00 pm

I actually quite enjoy collecting dragon movies. Particularly if they are rare and, for once, not horrible. :P I tend to get them on Blu-ray if possible. I quite like Blu-ray, but I might be a bit biased honestly.

Nice collection!

Thanks ^ ^ Though being in the Netherlands frankly kinda sucks as a ~~hoarder~~ collector of dragon movies. Almost all my Blu-rays are imported, with half of them probably German and a quarter from the UK/US.

Yeaaaah, I recognize that back when Blu-ray came out and I wanted all the movies.

The only Dutch dragon movies I have are Eragon and, I suppose, Spirited Away if you count that one. (edited)

Eragon

They really have to remake that one. By the Gods that movie was bad.

9:15 pm

Saphira was very nicely done. But that didn't make up for the rest of the movie.

The Dutch release of Spirited Away might be the worst I have ever seen. Horrible dub (even though a much better one already exists, which is the one Netflix uses), the movie is interlaced, at 576i resolution, there's a black frame around the entire frame and to top it all off there is a very distracting orange filter over the entire image. As for Eragon, I actually thought the movie was fine. But then, I have not read the books... yet. #shiny-nest

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That version of Spirited Away sounds absolutely useless. And I really really recommend reading the entire Enheritance Cycle. Although written by a young person and Paolini does fall into some stereotypical writer's traps, he makes up for it by the end.

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Yeah... problem is just that I have so, so many dragon books to read... including some Dutch ones (yes, I also collect Dutch dragon books, there's like 20 in the entirety of Dutch literature xD)

1

Get to it!

Akir'ischa

Get to it!

The one I'm most excited for is Drägan Duma. And also, am really proud of my limited edition hardcover copy. #shiny-nest

Bluefire

The one I'm most excited for is Drägan Duma. And also, am really proud of my limited edition hardcover copy. #shiny-nest

I did not know this one. Read the summary and that sounds quite entertaining.

Bluefire

Yeah... problem is just that I have so, so many dragon books to read... including some Dutch ones (yes, I also collect Dutch dragon books, there's like 20 in the entirety of Dutch literature xD)

If you come across dragon books that aren't in this list, add them! https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/160587.Dragon_PoV_Xenofiction

Dragon PoV Xenofiction (123 books)

123 books based on 45 votes: The Dragonet Prophecy by Tui T. Sutherland, Sphere of Eternity by Lewis Jones Davies, Dragon Champion by E.E. Knight, Axtara...

I was laughing the entire time I was reading the introduction. I quit reading at some point, though that's because I was actually busy with another book, and as a general rule of thumb I only read one book at a time.

Rakeela

If you come across dragon books that aren't in this list, add them! https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/160587.Dragon_PoV_Xenofiction

Oh, they're all from the point of view of a dragon? I know one Dutch dragon book like that, though it's only revealed at the end.

That's a good rule. I love diving completely into the story and starting on a new book would mean I get everything mixed up.

Akir'ischa

I did not know this one. Read the summary and that sounds quite entertaining.

The main character was like: "Raining when I need to go to work? Of course." "Flat tire while taking the bicycle? Of course." "I' need to cook food this time? Of course." "Seeing a dragon out the window? Of course. Wait... what?"

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Rakeela

If you come across dragon books that aren't in this list, add them! https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/160587.Dragon_PoV_Xenofiction

Although technically not a book, it's long enough to be considered a short story. Chris Dragon's 'Birth of a Dragon' should be read by every Dragonkin on this planet. Since he hosts it on Draconic.com it was one of the first stories I came across and it never left my heart.

Oooh right, I read that one too. You can really tell someone poured his heart and soul into it... Though i don't think you'll be able to add that one, as it needs to be in the Goodreads DB first. (edited)

Shame. Should be mandatory. Homework upon awakening, hahaha.

I actually only read it much later, though it was very much worth it. Wish I could have it as a proper book on the shelf.

Rakeela

If you come across dragon books that aren't in this list, add them! https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/160587.Dragon_PoV_Xenofiction

i love the last dragon chronicles they make so little sense

gmorning and WOAH

Morning!

i look back a second and like 15 are missing

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It's getting late over here, but I really don't want to leave.

i just woke up

Changing of the guard, haha.

Last dragon chronicles my beloved

Ravensworn

Last dragon chronicles my beloved

dragon chronicles by godzilla99 my beloved

I'm hanging out in the regular voice chat if anyone wants to hang out at all!

wiggles I'm working on a drawing in honor of the Summit!

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Morning folks

does a mlem

Revolution Radio

Morning folks

I have things to do... I need to feed my snails, clean my room, wash my sheets... why do I have things to do that distract my being from the event sadblep

s n a l s

clean later, that's what I say >>;=)

10:31 pm

do feed your little shelled friends, though

i may join celestial spire

You're 18 yes?

yuh

Then go for it :)

dive into the waters of uncertainty, it's probably safe >>;=)

(Luunaathh)

I have things to do... I need to feed my snails, clean my room, wash my sheets... why do I have things to do that distract my being from the event sadblep

oop, is it alright if i have the attendee role in the spire?

11:10 pm

or do i still have to prove i'm 18

You have to make an introduction before you can receive the member role.

11:10 pm

For the spire that process isn't necessary.

Hey hey hey

To all my lovely Dragons, Draconics and Dergs. I sadly have to go to bed and I can't join in the next days because of real life plans and that makes me extremely sad. Through this message I want to give you all my positive energy and I hope every one of you enjoys themselves and hopefully I see you all after the Summit or at the next one. You're an amazing community dragnheart

Goodnight~

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Thank you for joining us today! I hope that you get a good nights rest!

1

Sleep well!

1

Goodnight.

goodnight!!

gn!

If you missed any panels, don't fear, we just finished uploading recordings for all of today's panels to the YT: https://www.youtube.com/@TheDraconicSummit/featured

Draconic Summit

Greetings! The draconic summit is a biannual online gathering hosted on discord that is draconic/dragonkin centric! This is an event for individuals to connect with others in the greater dragonkin/otherkin communities, share their unique experiences, and exchange knowledge! Anyone can attend however, no matter if they are draconic or not. The pu...

Oh :> perfeect.

welcome new ones!

@(Luunaathh) YAY!! i can make the Voice Discussion tomorrow! ..i think,

Hopefully you can make it! voidcatblep

Depending on if I can get my voice changer to work or not, I'll either be just talking in text or using my preferred deep voice.

5:12 am

Would rather not talk through Luunaathh in front of others, lol

(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol)

Depending on if I can get my voice changer to work or not, I'll either be just talking in text or using my preferred deep voice.

Luck on that! i'll be using the voice i hate, i.e. the only one i have!

(Luunaathh)

Hopefully you can make it! voidcatblep

i hope this isn't the wrong time but i have a question,,

It’s not a bad time, what was your question?

what do i do after joining the spire?

There’s an introduction form template in the rules and regulations channel in the spire that you can use to make your own introduction. Once you make that introduction I’ll go ahead and add your member role and you’ll get access to the rest of the server.

(Luunaathh)

There’s an introduction form template in the rules and regulations channel in the spire that you can use to make your own introduction. Once you make that introduction I’ll go ahead and add your member role and you’ll get access to the rest of the server.

aalright i've made my introduction, but it won't let me send it atm

familiar dragns

I

[{Adel}]

aalright i've made my introduction, but it won't let me send it atm

We’ve never had that problem before in the spire, I’ll see if something is up with the permissions.

DARN IT I JUST COPIED SOMETHING ELSE, NOW I GOTTA REDO MY INTRO

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2

(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol)

We’ve never had that problem before in the spire, I’ll see if something is up with the permissions.

i'm pretty sure it says the same thing as when i first joined this server

Could you show us a screenshot of what you’re talking about? The highest moderation level on the spire is “members must be registered on discord for more than five minutes”.

6:09 am

Again, we haven’t had this issue before, so I’m not sure what we need to fix.

it just says this, and i'm completely unable to verify just so you know

Gn all

gnighty!!

01:31 here, nest time.

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till tomorrow

[{Adel}]

it just says this, and i'm completely unable to verify just so you know

I see now, let my being add your role for you and then you can make your introduction.

good god, trying to get into dreamwidth but its hard

1:25 pm

generally im having quite a hard time navigating new blog/websites stuff, which is a shame because it seems really interesting

Morning

stretches and mwarrrrs buongiorno, dragi

tired derg

2:33 pm

gnight

aww, night Adel

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awwww prrrrrr

i routinely post it before bed.

i crave the dergy cuddles

Good Morning, Dergs

hello folks

I can’t sleep TT TT

Morning

morning

Good morning.

Morning all!

4:14 pm

sets up coffee and tea station

4:14 pm

puts out hot chocolate packets

hot choc would be good for damp day like today

Grawrr!!

I'm hiding in my lair with the heat on

Will there be a VC for the premiere?

could always just start one

At the end there will be a live q&a portion in the discord

4:55 pm

It'll be on the stage in panel central

Have fun! I’m in the middle of a party dragnsob

I slept in a bit this morning, hello

Good morning my dergliest dergs

I have decided that I hope to acquire Goodreads friends

Afternoon all

6:46 pm

I’m sad that I couldn’t make it to the first panel of the day, though I’ll do my best to attend the other panels for today!

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no problem!

i find it funny that i told my mom i was going to the gas station down the street to buy some candy and she tells me not to talk to strangers at 18 years old, i guess some things never do change

@(Luunaathh) You cant host it, but will it still be happening in general?

7:41 pm

Or do we just go into the voice chat together?

Yawns. Morning

@(Luunaathh) fret not about your announcement, we appreciate everything you're doing to make all this possible

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I’ll still be hosting the scheduled voice chat! I’m just not sure when I’m going to schedule it at the moment.

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(Luunaathh)

I’ll still be hosting the scheduled voice chat! I’m just not sure when I’m going to schedule it at the moment.

Ah, at least we understand now! Let us know when you get a better time! ❤️

Will do! ^.=.^

Does anyone else here use Goodreads? My shelves contain a huge number of dragon books and I'm eager to share what I've read

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7:47 pm

My favorite book is Crackling Sea by K Vale Nagle, but I think my favorite series is the Archeons series by James L. Steele.

7:48 pm

No dragons in Crackling Sea, but a dragon is an important character in the later books of the Archeons series.

Yoooo can I just say how much fun this Summit has been for me so far?? It's so lovely to be surrounded by so many other dragons, and everyone is trying to prioritize this event as much as they can so we all are able to have such constant interaction. It reminds me just a bit of how my life was as a dragon, with so many others always around and happily chatting away and sharing thoughts, advice, and feelings with each other.

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3

Which stage/VC is the next panel in? (edited)

There should be an event stream by the full hour...

Drakmanka

Yoooo can I just say how much fun this Summit has been for me so far?? It's so lovely to be surrounded by so many other dragons, and everyone is trying to prioritize this event as much as they can so we all are able to have such constant interaction. It reminds me just a bit of how my life was as a dragon, with so many others always around and happily chatting away and sharing thoughts, advice, and feelings with each other.

And especially because of the things i might be learning about myself, thanks to many people's ideas and perspectives, on things i've spent decades trying to figure out!

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4

I absolutely hate that I can’t attend any of the panels, but I’m still trying to follow what is going on. Doesn’t help that I’m at a party and getting completely hammered on alcohol. dragnheadphones

Akir'ischa

I absolutely hate that I can’t attend any of the panels, but I’m still trying to follow what is going on. Doesn’t help that I’m at a party and getting completely hammered on alcohol. dragnheadphones

Feel you. Most of the panels happen before i wake up.

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Same here haha

9:15 pm

I'll at least Try and make it to the ones I'm around for, if I can :>

I’ll listen to the ones I missed on Youtube.

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9:17 pm

But I mainly miss the active discussion with you lot.

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Akir'ischa

I’ll listen to the ones I missed on Youtube.

That's what i'll be doing as well.

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I only got one new friend on Goodreads out of the summit so far...

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Rakeela

I only got one new friend on Goodreads out of the summit so far...

It's okay, but at least we both know who that is.

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Dragonne

It's okay, but at least we both know who that is.

We'll have to share favorites! What would you most recommend I read?

morningg

Greetings

Afternoon

Rakeela

We'll have to share favorites! What would you most recommend I read?

Oooh, that's a difficult one. I did really enjoy the Lazy Scales series, despite it's flaws. But more so the "Lazy Scales Universe" sequel series. I highly suggest Wings of Fire, obviously. A series i loved the idea behind, and the story of, was "The Dragon Inside" series. However, it had (has?) some serious flaws. The primary issue is that the author is native russian, and does not know english. Thus, the first book was translated by a pretty bad translator who did not seem to really understand english well themselves. The rest were done by a much better translator, but still not what you'd call "great". As well, the series can feel slow and fast all at once, since it uses multiple point of view characters to maintain action, while the story itself is actually rather slow. This can create some confusion in the reader. I enjoyed "I, Dragon" as a sort of dyphoria-based dragon book, because the main character has been cursed into being a dragon, and is not fine with it. Sort of a reverse of our situations. However, it has a lot of suppotive themes, including the MC working towards better mental health and dealing with their situation somewhat constructively. One of my absolute favorites was the Talon series. OMG, i could not believe how much i liked this almost-but-not-quite romance triangle. I'm not a fan of romance books, and this is technically not, but the plot is drive by the romance itself. So it feels like a hybrid that errs towards non-romance. Beautifully done as a whole, however. Temeraire Is a well known series, of course!

I really enjoyed the well-known Age of Fire series. (It's sequel series is on my upcoming list.)

I've been meaning to rad the Wings of Fire myself but still haven't despite Turtle wanting me to because of ADHD being ADHD

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;w;

Sorry, got to give it up to my girl, Sundew. She's my unabashed fave. Lesbeans you unite!

~~that and not knowing where to go and idr if he's sent me anything or not hkhgkl;~~

Uhh I can send you a link to the graphic novels again if you'd like?

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Yeah you should

Turtle/Moonwatcher 💚

Uhh I can send you a link to the graphic novels again if you'd like?

When i obtain an income, this is one of the first things i want!

Mhm, they are really good, would especially reccomend moon rising

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Regarding the announcement: Our whole system has been watching on and off throughout this event and everyone would like to be counted. Not including myself, since I'm the one doing 95% of the chatting here and I'm sure I've already been tallied, our system numbers at 11 members.

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Oki! We'll make sure to count them! ^.=.^

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Drakmanka

Regarding the announcement: Our whole system has been watching on and off throughout this event and everyone would like to be counted. Not including myself, since I'm the one doing 95% of the chatting here and I'm sure I've already been tallied, our system numbers at 11 members.

I had not realized this fact! up to 11, eh?

Dragonne

I had not realized this fact! up to 11, eh?

lol yes, ever since Odo showed up the system has sort of exploded. I think you've seen most of them around and chatted with most of them. All but one of them have their own PK account, the one who doesn't simply doesn't want to interact and wants to remain anonymous at this point.

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perfect number for ordering donuts (dozen)

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lol yes

we've got 10 here but i've been doing the everything

Drakmanka

lol yes, ever since Odo showed up the system has sort of exploded. I think you've seen most of them around and chatted with most of them. All but one of them have their own PK account, the one who doesn't simply doesn't want to interact and wants to remain anonymous at this point.

That makes sense. But i rarely can keep other people's systems in alignment in my head, especially if they're big. It ironically doesnt help that, for me, each system member is their own person, and i mentally categorize them like such. So it's like "[ERROR] Host not found."

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arek's in the background though, but it doesn't like talking to new people because it's not good at socializing hskdhkdhd

If only we could eat them thar donuts

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I am being called out

Arek | 🍁

I am being called out

omg giratina

Indeed!

Onewa

If only we could eat them thar donuts

I mean, personally, i'd still try. But that's jsut me!

I'm the only one who frequently interacts online, although Terus has been getting more and more active. Also, not a complaint exactly but it is slightly annoying for us to chat here with the slowmode turned on since we all get throttled by all these messages being proxied through our host account

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I'm not very good at telling people apart in general, but when systems have their icon change my brain goes "NEW PERSON, FLEE!" as usual

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It's probably the cutest Giratina I've seen tbh

I'm personally not really apart of a system, but i do have a kinsona that's a latias named Heiwa

You are a tad biased, don't you think?

Fiadh ↩️

Reply to: It's probably the cutest Giratina I've seen tbh

It's actually part of why we don't have a system tag, so people don't necessarily know which system we're from. We're all individual people and don't necessarily like being tied to our host as some sort of "this person belongs to this person" (not saying that you were saying that, Dragonne, btw, just that some people make that mistake)

Illia

I'm not very good at telling people apart in general, but when systems have their icon change my brain goes "NEW PERSON, FLEE!" as usual

I get this, IRL, because i'm faceblind. So most people IRL for me is not unlike watching Systems run around. I cant always quite figure out who is who.

I'm still questioning systemhood myself but conversations with Hrael and Turtle have kinda made me realized "wait I'm definitely showing signs of OSDD"

Now, show my dragons, and i'll me able to tell people apart. Even most animals. Just not the flat-faces.

Arek | 🍁

You are a tad biased, don't you think?

Maybe a little

yeah, I'm somewhat faceblind too. I met a girl named Gracie and it took me months of knowing a girl named Grace before someone pointed out they were the same person

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We're Endogenic. Odo was the first headmate in the system, but prior to that we had a system of four of us. Hartborne and Aquarius are spirits, and Vakama is a Soulbond, so we all had our own bodies but only I was physically present in this world. Since Odo showed up, we've had 7 more folks show up, 6 of whom are headmates lol

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11:40 pm

~~brb put doing the dishes off too long already~~

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Illia

yeah, I'm somewhat faceblind too. I met a girl named Gracie and it took me months of knowing a girl named Grace before someone pointed out they were the same person

One of my favorite stories is that we have these two friends, who were married at the time. He always wore a beanie, and she had a really consistent hair style she preferred. (Important: my first primary recognizance is hair-based. I remember people best by their hair.) Well, one day they came over, and the guy didnt have his beanie on. First time seeing him without it! So i aw her, got excited, then started questioning why she was with this strange man. Everybody froze then burst out laughing as i realized my error. Now wait, because it get's worse! The very next time they came over, he was wearing his beanie again, except she cut her hair! Ditto the same reactions, except i noticed him, and was confused by her! Cue harder laughing! and me trying to bury myself.

my uncle happened to have a romantic relationship with two people with the exact same name. I did not know they were separate people. then the new partner mentioned not having a kid, while I knew the previous one did. so I thought there was a soap opera going on where this lady got married to my uncle, moved to costa rica with her kid, had her kid die, divorced my uncle, moved back to america, then started dating him again. I finally asked my parents very hesitantly if her kid had died

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11:45 pm

new partner: good thing I don't have kids haha! me, thinking her kid died: why does she sound so cheerful???

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Dragonne

Oooh, that's a difficult one. I did really enjoy the Lazy Scales series, despite it's flaws. But more so the "Lazy Scales Universe" sequel series. I highly suggest Wings of Fire, obviously. A series i loved the idea behind, and the story of, was "The Dragon Inside" series. However, it had (has?) some serious flaws. The primary issue is that the author is native russian, and does not know english. Thus, the first book was translated by a pretty bad translator who did not seem to really understand english well themselves. The rest were done by a much better translator, but still not what you'd call "great". As well, the series can feel slow and fast all at once, since it uses multiple point of view characters to maintain action, while the story itself is actually rather slow. This can create some confusion in the reader. I enjoyed "I, Dragon" as a sort of dyphoria-based dragon book, because the main character has been cursed into being a dragon, and is not fine with it. Sort of a reverse of our situations. However, it has a lot of suppotive themes, including the MC working towards better mental health and dealing with their situation somewhat constructively. One of my absolute favorites was the Talon series. OMG, i could not believe how much i liked this almost-but-not-quite romance triangle. I'm not a fan of romance books, and this is technically not, but the plot is drive by the romance itself. So it feels like a hybrid that errs towards non-romance. Beautifully done as a whole, however. Temeraire Is a well known series, of course!

I really enjoyed the well-known Age of Fire series. (It's sequel series is on my upcoming list.)

I've ordered a copy of "I, Dragon" based on your review.

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Yup. I think my most embarrassing stories is... well, best just tell it, eh? So, i was trying to get to an appointment for my HRT. I believe it was one of my first with my then-new Endo who i love now. (she is an epic doctor!) Well, long story short, my rides bailed on me, and i was having trouble finding another ride. So i posted on facebook, looking for help. Okay, so someone says they can help me, comes picks me up. I'm horrible with new people, and obviously i knew very little about this person. It was almost an emergency situation. I only knew i had them for a while as friends on facebook, and interacted decently there. But didnt really know who they were. Well, as we're talking, and i'm having a small anxiety attack over everything, she turns to me, and eventually just bluntly ask "...you don't remember me do you?" I hate when people do this to me, because it's so embarrassing to admit to, and sometimes people take it really personally. But i've also learned it's best to just admit defeat, and explain myself, so i did. Plot twist: This was one of my good friends from high school. she was one of the core members of my little outcast social group, along with me and my Bestie. I was shooketh! I had not even the smallest of clues! She laughed at my reasoning though, not in insult, but in jest, as her gears began to click as to some of the reason i acted so weird in school. Trans and faceblind!

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I definitely do prefer when systems have system tags, because it makes it a lot easier to get to know systems as a whole I just " ❓ " react indiscriminately because I get a little bit stressed out if I can't remember who's from which system tbh

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Dragonne

Yup. I think my most embarrassing stories is... well, best just tell it, eh? So, i was trying to get to an appointment for my HRT. I believe it was one of my first with my then-new Endo who i love now. (she is an epic doctor!) Well, long story short, my rides bailed on me, and i was having trouble finding another ride. So i posted on facebook, looking for help. Okay, so someone says they can help me, comes picks me up. I'm horrible with new people, and obviously i knew very little about this person. It was almost an emergency situation. I only knew i had them for a while as friends on facebook, and interacted decently there. But didnt really know who they were. Well, as we're talking, and i'm having a small anxiety attack over everything, she turns to me, and eventually just bluntly ask "...you don't remember me do you?" I hate when people do this to me, because it's so embarrassing to admit to, and sometimes people take it really personally. But i've also learned it's best to just admit defeat, and explain myself, so i did. Plot twist: This was one of my good friends from high school. she was one of the core members of my little outcast social group, along with me and my Bestie. I was shooketh! I had not even the smallest of clues! She laughed at my reasoning though, not in insult, but in jest, as her gears began to click as to some of the reason i acted so weird in school. Trans and faceblind!

Oh my gosh, I'm sorry, that sounds like an awkward situation. Happens to me frequently though :/

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12:35 am

Imma back

Dragonne

Yup. I think my most embarrassing stories is... well, best just tell it, eh? So, i was trying to get to an appointment for my HRT. I believe it was one of my first with my then-new Endo who i love now. (she is an epic doctor!) Well, long story short, my rides bailed on me, and i was having trouble finding another ride. So i posted on facebook, looking for help. Okay, so someone says they can help me, comes picks me up. I'm horrible with new people, and obviously i knew very little about this person. It was almost an emergency situation. I only knew i had them for a while as friends on facebook, and interacted decently there. But didnt really know who they were. Well, as we're talking, and i'm having a small anxiety attack over everything, she turns to me, and eventually just bluntly ask "...you don't remember me do you?" I hate when people do this to me, because it's so embarrassing to admit to, and sometimes people take it really personally. But i've also learned it's best to just admit defeat, and explain myself, so i did. Plot twist: This was one of my good friends from high school. she was one of the core members of my little outcast social group, along with me and my Bestie. I was shooketh! I had not even the smallest of clues! She laughed at my reasoning though, not in insult, but in jest, as her gears began to click as to some of the reason i acted so weird in school. Trans and faceblind!

Oh my, that does sound pretty embarrassing. I'm glad that she was understanding about it though!

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Euro timezones ... So tired, but want to stick around y..y

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1:50 am

Gn8 all! Have a great rest evening!

you too!

G'night!

I'm late, but for the member count we can be two (me and ammy)

same for us (me and takashi)

No worries! Also oki!

I only count one!! None of my dragon headmates are awake enough to talk here- (edited)

THAT DIDN'T SOUND GOOD

5:46 am

I WAS TRYNA CLEAR MY LEFT EAR WHEN I MOVED MY MOUTH AND I HEARD THIS LOUD CRACK (edited)

A thought just bounced into my head: kangaryu. Now I'm surprised I've never seen a dragon/kangaroo character described that way.

kangaryu is an awesome name for something

[{Adel}]

I WAS TRYNA CLEAR MY LEFT EAR WHEN I MOVED MY MOUTH AND I HEARD THIS LOUD CRACK (edited)

Ow. Stressed or anxious? It might be that your jaw is too tight if it was a jaw pop

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Ow. Stressed or anxious? It might be that your jaw is too tight if it was a jaw pop

it's been kind of blocked for a few days now and i've figured out how to unblock it

Unblock? I'm not sure I understand/nm

If your ear is blocked I recommend using ear wax removal drops. It's the weirdest-ass sensation ever, but it basically dissolves your ear wax and allows it to flow out your ear. It can take multiple sessions and can seemingly make the blockage worse at first, but ultimately it's really the best fix for a bad ear wax impaction if you can't go see a doctor to use an otoscope on you to clean it out. (edited)

6:18 am

If it's any comfort the crack was almost certainly your jaw, not your ear. I have an uncle who ruptured an eardrum and he said when it happened there was no sound accompanying it, things just suddenly got quieter in that ear. So you're probably safe.

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Diluted hydrogen peroxide and a squeeze bulb(?) can also work if you can't buy an earwax removal kit

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I had to get my ears blasted out with water. They put in some loosening drops and then just. shot a whole bunch of water in there. it felt awful and I was soaked

I've done that in the shower before after a ear wax drop treatment, but at least I was in the shower and not in my clothes...

the nurse managed to soak my skirt. I don't know how either

Yeesh

at least it got the wax out

[{Adel}]

I WAS TRYNA CLEAR MY LEFT EAR WHEN I MOVED MY MOUTH AND I HEARD THIS LOUD CRACK (edited)

I have TMJ, and this is... very common for me. Almost all the time while i eat.

Illia

I had to get my ears blasted out with water. They put in some loosening drops and then just. shot a whole bunch of water in there. it felt awful and I was soaked

It works using only water too ^^ That's how I do it

Drakmanka

If it's any comfort the crack was almost certainly your jaw, not your ear. I have an uncle who ruptured an eardrum and he said when it happened there was no sound accompanying it, things just suddenly got quieter in that ear. So you're probably safe.

i can crack my right ear-

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6:39 am

i've been able to do it for years though

a lot of our joints, including our jaw, do a lot of cracking and making unpleasant grinding sounds (and sensations). yawning and stretching at the same time is a very noisy set of movements.

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Some people can flex the muscles inside their ears (different from moving your ears, I mean smth on the inside) to clear them if they're clogged. I can do that with mine (edited)

peeks in quietly

spots peeker Rawr!

don't know if our Finnish findragon got finished, but if anybody knows how to find the stream of it or if Ryuu was making the picture available somehow afterall, let me know. Was getting some nice detailwork last I seen

1:45 pm

meeps as his tiptaloning wasn't silent enough from being spotted, mwarring softly

I know little of your findragon. I know only that I woke up too early, unable to keep sleeping.

oh, that's no bueno

Create a Draconic Being panel though, right? I hope you find your dragon.

yes, that's the one... sure through the day, somebody'll know where to find 'im

1:57 pm

Ryuu was going to post link to the full stream... but it was obscure on exactly where that was going to be, so...

1:58 pm

a book about a merchantdragon, eh... a merchant who's bargains aren't to be passed up lest it be an unwise medical decision to do so? >>:=p

It got finished, but the stream went pretty last night. Everything was recorded tho (edited)

KeystoneDarkJade

a book about a merchantdragon, eh... a merchant who's bargains aren't to be passed up lest it be an unwise medical decision to do so? >>:=p

Certainly nothing of the sort! Denziu is a very peaceful merchant. Zie started out selling soil to farmers and has lately moved on to more ambitious hauling.

yea, I gave out around 1:30 and it was still happening

3:21 pm

threw myself into Drac Experiences 1 for anybody wishing tale of a jaded one

3:22 pm

peacefulness and merchantiling/sales, those 2 seem fairly conflict of interest as my pastor who's also a lawyer

3:23 pm

does sound interesting though. I did set a tab for it to go check out later

3:24 pm

it would be neat if we could somehow get a copy of the picture to save and remember, but not sure if that'll be a thing

It should get posted later today, last we heard Ryuu was going to put on some finishing touches and then share

good morning y’all

Good morning

Morning

hi!

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@Nova [☆] Dergs sounds good Nova. So much time and work's gone into our Finnish findragon from Lake Finnitia. Bamfoozling me what it was becoming vs my orig thought it was going to be a more "quickie thing"

4:52 pm

and thanks for the reads; tales of folks like us aren't too many, at least in official off-the-shelf literature. There was Dragon dela Sangre though few years back

Of course, glad you enjoyed it!

it leaves a bit of a longing, but... it's also... familiar

In case anyone missed it, this is what we read https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/18220094-shifting-hearts

Shifting Hearts

It is said that the eyes are the windows to the soul, b…

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That cover is clever

5:04 pm

I didn't realize it was a crow on that head, not just hair until I had a second look.

ikr?

5:06 pm

The book is actually just coming up on it's 10th anniversary! We're working on a full reading as well, but it's not ready to share yet so today we just did 2 of the stories

Wait this book is almost a decade old?

Yup! Published in 2013

the book is a series of such tales then?

Yup! Every story is about otherkin

Added to my "save for later" list when I need something from online store. :P

Nova [☆] Dergs

Yup! Every story is about otherkin

Wow. That's amazing

Speaking of otherkin books, there's another one in-progress too

https://discord.com/channels/1029209416668565504/1029213784927109211/1086374821467787364

Good morning dwaggies

hi Drak

Hi y'all!

hallo Amber

good morning! yesterday was so fun!

awa

àwâ

Grwr, good mornin!!

Mrow

Nova [☆] Dergs

In case anyone missed it, this is what we read https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/18220094-shifting-hearts

Oh, that is interesting!!

ohhhhh, findragon came out so pretty

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Don't know who the next panelist was gonna be, but, whoever it is, hope you're feeling better soon!

Ahh yeah that's unfortunate, but understandable if they're not feeling great, hope they feel better soon

AUGH I haven’t been feeling well so I’ve been sleeping all day and missed some panels :(

I hope our sick/not feeling well panelist feels better soon!

Same!!

Quick question: aside from uploading the panels that got recorded, will this server stay around for a little while after the Summit ends? I pretty much missed these past 36 hours and will also have to miss the last panel, but I want to read some of the discussions that were had simply because they are so interesting.

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Akir'ischa

Quick question: aside from uploading the panels that got recorded, will this server stay around for a little while after the Summit ends? I pretty much missed these past 36 hours and will also have to miss the last panel, but I want to read some of the discussions that were had simply because they are so interesting.

Last summit, the server wasn't deleted after it was over, it was just set to read-only; I suspect it'll be the same this one

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I've definitely been enjoying this a lot, I've been feeling so much dragon species euphoria these past few days

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Yeah, I’ll make the server read only on Monday, it won’t be deleted.

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8:39 pm

Also I’m glad to hear that you’ve been enjoying the summit!

Yeah I'm still in last summit's server so I can go back and read through everything when I wish.

I scrolled through this server for the past days whenever I could and just by glossing over the topics that were discussed I haven’t felt this left behind in forever. dragnsob

(edited)

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8:42 pm

You’re all the most amazing, loveliest bunch of draconic dergs a being could wish for. dragnheart

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it's been a really nice con!!!! and i hopefully wanna be more active in dragonkin communities afterwards

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Same, definitely

Same here, I look forward to seeing those of you who have joined the draconic basin and the celestial spire around even after this event is finished

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oh my Akir blushes we love you too

8:49 pm

I did join so I could keep up with y'all... we seem to have a decent crowd here. I was unsure at first because even in our world, there are some yucky ones out there...

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8:49 pm

somehow or other even, I made some new friends even

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8:54 pm

we need to get together and start a community on an island someplace

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You’d need a self-sustaining island that has modern necessities and every possible climate to accommodate to everyone.

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9:33 pm

Do I: disregard any and all responsibilities and stay awake to attend the 18+ panel, even though I have something huge at work tomorrow and need to be at my best. Or be a responsible creature and go to bed so I can catch up on sleep and be sharp tomorrow. dragnshock

it’s literally a fight between my mind and my heart, haha.

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Well, it's not really a panel at this point, it's more of a scheduled discussion after taking in account a few factors.

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I have actually dreamt before about all us dragons getting together, pooling resources, and buying a huge house with a load of property somewhere and living together as a community. Everybody gets their own bedroom and then the other spaces are communal, the disabled dragons are taken care of by the abled ones, and so forth.

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It's whatever you wish to do, there's no pressure to join in

9:35 pm

That sounds like a very interesting idea

(A Vuulluunnthhaaiiill Lol)

Well, it's not really a panel at this point, it's more of a scheduled discussion after taking in account a few factors.

Fair, but still one I find highly interesting to attend!

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well, that 92ac place in Montana done sold (HUGE midievalesque house on it)

9:40 pm

@Drakmanka could definitely be self-sufficient and grow our own food and do the whole thing

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Especially with that much acreage. We could have a lot of produce, as well as raise cattle and chickens for eggs, milk, and meat for the carnivorous dragons amongst us.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5650-Canyonwoods-Dr-Billings-MT-59106/250159092_zpid/

5650 Canyonwoods Dr, Billings, MT 59106 | Zillow

5650 Canyonwoods Dr, Billings MT, is a Single Family home that contains 30843 sq ft and was built in 2014.It contains 10 bedrooms and 19 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this Single Family is $7,713,700, which has decreased by $163,910 in the last 30 days.The Rent Zestimate for this Single Family is $43,777/mo, which has increased by $1,287/mo in ...

9:43 pm

and privacy enough to def not be bothered. MT is a little burry for my tastes, but it is really pretty up there

Holy smokes what an estate! It'd sure be fun to swim during the summer months though, lookit that pool! *looks closer* Waitasec

*is that a convertible indoor pool??? I do believe it is! That means swimming even in wintertime! And I mean hecc, if we're fantasizing about such a place we are obviously fantasizing that we would have the means to keep the place plenty warm for those who need it thus.

dragon that lives up there showed me that when it was for sale

"Single family" lmao

Norwaro's BR would simply BE the swimming pool >>;=)

9:48 pm

well, we're all like one BIG family Drak, ain't we? dragnheart

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True, true

couple of lanes of bowling, shooting range... dude that had it built had it all there

Drakmanka

"Single family" lmao

Aren’t we all one big family.

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9:50 pm

I should’ve read before typing dragnsleep

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hmmm, only pool I see is outside

Morning

KeystoneDarkJade

hmmm, only pool I see is outside

This is what I'm looking at, in the second image

9:54 pm

Looking at some of the interior images and thinking "yeah but if we all lived there, all that fancy, fragile-looking furniture would have to be rehomed." I'm just imagining dozens of dragons clad in socks deliberately running them sliding on that nice hardwood floor lol

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Drak LOL, yea, I could see sliding contests ensuing

Okay now I want that house just for the kitchen sink. It's huge and glorious

9:58 pm

and... is that... is that a little elevator installed in the shaft of the spiral staircase??

10:00 pm

OMG there is a fire pole

I dunno how many of you are interested in fossils, but Billings MT is real close to some epic fossil beds we could hunt for shinies in

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10:01 pm

And Montana has incredible mountains!

there is an elev in one part near a main area. And that pool does look like maybe half of it's outside and half of it's inside

I think I'd enjoy Montana because of mountains + how cold it gets in the winter

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Drakmanka

and... is that... is that a little elevator installed in the shaft of the spiral staircase??

Okay upon further examination of the plethora of photos, it is indeed an elevator. Perfect for our disabled dergs! This house is now my new setting for my fantasy of the server being a real place where we can all live lmao

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10:02 pm

There also appears to be at least five kitchens, holy smokes

there might be gold 'nem 'nere hills. There is a frisbee golf place in the area too, very terrainy. Went out with my friend and we were hiking around and out on top of the granite they used to build/foundation the town, some pretty views from it

and there's a freaking movie theater

you see when friend showed me that, I'm like oh my yes

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And a shooting range, and a bowling alley, and some sort of arcade... uuuh... thing... This is why people hate the rich yo. They have houses like this and then whine during covid lockdowns lmao

lockdowns are fun when you live in a play center eh?

10:05 pm

just need a mote with Fineases in it >>;=)

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I mean, I got through lockdowns thanks to Animal Crossing and my family owning an acre of land with a miniature forest in the front yard. I'd never wanna leave my house again if it had all this stuff in it though lol

10:07 pm

there is an outdoor kitchen I am learning so much about what you can put in a house today lol

oh, you're a salesman, JW or Mormon, yes, please speak with Fineas our greeting advisor and coordinator mwahahahaha

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I feel like that's what the front gate is for lol Without having to bribe the police periodically because yeah, another salesman/door-to-door religious person disappeared.

what salesman, I didn't see one... did you?

gmonrining

KeystoneDarkJade

what salesman, I didn't see one... did you?

"Must've gone off over yonder..." gestures vaguely to somewhere else

maidens too might come up missing, but what the old tales never tell you is most of those maidens were willing "captives" happy to carry out their life next to warm purring scales

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Ah, yes, it's a classic tale of the humans villifying the dragons to justify their assault and kidnapping of our maiden friends.

not maiden-napping if they stay on their own hehe. and buongiorno, Adel

I will say it is an interesting thing, that if you had a group of folks that all were friends or got along with each other, you could pool gold/resources and have a higher standard of living by having one collective estate. Prob would have to create some trust/corp where everybody puts their share into, to ensure the taxes are paid, funding for repairs, stuff like that

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That honestly sounds like a really brilliant idea. A little dragon community where everyone takes care of each other and the good of the whole is valued above any one individual's desires. Not sure if it would be more like communism or anarchy, but something like that.

pay yourself the prop taxes for the following year early in the prev year and let that money make money through the year before it's paid out, and use the profit from that to reduce the next year's input

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I wouldn't say it's communism or anarchy; if done right, you can keep the peace. There was a tale of 6 boys that stole a boat and left a monastery/orphanage/school who were going off for a better life but got lost at sea and ended up on a remote desolate island, and there for a few yrs till an Aussie boatman saw one of the boys bathing/swimming at the edge of the island. Tale went when stuck there, they set up a "judicial" system where if there was some fight or issue between them, they had a plan to give some cool off time away from camp and then deal with whatever it was. It helped them keep in a way to help each other and not fighting each other, since they all needed each others paws to help with raising food and keeping their camp maintained and such

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I honestly had a dream that me and a bunch of 'kin friends are buying a mansion but that never went anywhere x,..,x

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well, let's raise $8M and make that happen hehe

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You’re not getting any of my hoard drgnflareeyes

oh my... now I see why that didn't go anywhere Doppel >>:=p

As it is 1am and tomorrow is Monday again, this derg has to go now y..y, BUT I'd like to thank everyone for this great con here. I cannot emphasize how much it means to me to connect with ya all here during this cons. And biggest thanks to all the Guardians an Panelists who put so much effort in making this possible. This is how a community should be, let us evolve it so something greater every day!

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didn't talk to you a whole whole lot, but good to see you too KinDD

There is always the other servers !

bye, it was really fun!

indeed. I'm in 2 of those now. Hope your Monday is well

I loved being here, I'm definitely going to be around for the winter summit!

Wish I could've attended, well, anything lol. I just so happened to be busy all weekend. Hope yall had fun tho

thanks everybody who made this weekend possible, it's been really good meeting everyone

Life things come first, no need to worry.

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I wasn’t all that talkative during the course of the event, though I do enjoy seeing others share their experiences.

My first Summit, and i rather enjoyed this!!!

This was neat, might be interested in future events!

:-)

We got all the panels up now on YT if anyone wants to watch one they missed dragnloaf

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Is there a link to the YT channel?

Thank you all for this nice weekend :D

I've been giving it some thought and next Summit, barring some unforseeable IRL stuff, I would like to do a panel on draconic languages, and a Dragonkin-themed D&D one-shot

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I’ve actually been starting to write a script for a draconic language panel, we could have two of them though!

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I'd be interested in dragonkin themed D&D, I'm guessing it would it be a one-shot? (which would be perfect because I feel like I should at least do a one shot or two to get back into the swing of things)

(Luunaathh)

I’ve actually been starting to write a script for a draconic language panel, we could have two of them though!

For sure!

Oop I was thinking of ideas for a language panel too-

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Fiadh

I'd be interested in dragonkin themed D&D, I'm guessing it would it be a one-shot? (which would be perfect because I feel like I should at least do a one shot or two to get back into the swing of things)

Ye! Maybe it would have two parts, one half one day of the Summit and the second half concluding it the second day, depending upon how many people want to join. I'm currently working on details as there would be a lot of homebrew involved, but thankfully I've got something like 9 months lol

That would be really fun!!!!!

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That sounds really cool dragneyes

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I’ll make sure not to do anything on new years when the next summit happens, no parties for my being!

Good to know, I'd definitely love to be involved, I haven't done anything tabletop since 2018 (with a campaign that fizzled after one session and has one hell of a story associated with it which I've brought up around Turtle and Hrael before I think)

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The Summit will be the party!

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True!

Fiadh

Good to know, I'd definitely love to be involved, I haven't done anything tabletop since 2018 (with a campaign that fizzled after one session and has one hell of a story associated with it which I've brought up around Turtle and Hrael before I think)

Oh t h a t

I won't go into details but it uh Involves 9/11 which I think says all I'll ever need to say further on it

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We've got a phantom limb meditation we wrote a few years ago, that we love, but it's in serious need of a remaster--we're planning to present our shiny new version of that and probably another reading (Thinking of doing The Dragon of Ynys) at the next summit dragnpizza

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OOH that one is such a nice book

never heard of it myself

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I've been on the fence about this all Summit and it's a bit late now, but perhaps next Summit I will prepare something about my experiences becoming draconic. I still don't fully feel draconic the way many of you describe it, but I do identify as a dragon when I use my yinglong form. I probably won't present it, as I can barely front to play games let alone trying to talk to a bunch of people. But we'll see.

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Though uh- if you do I'd very much reccomend looking up a welsh pronunciation guide, speaking as someone from wales who speaks a pretty decent amount of welsh

Yeah I know Welsh is very different from English pronunciation wise

Odo

I've been on the fence about this all Summit and it's a bit late now, but perhaps next Summit I will prepare something about my experiences becoming draconic. I still don't fully feel draconic the way many of you describe it, but I do identify as a dragon when I use my yinglong form. I probably won't present it, as I can barely front to play games let alone trying to talk to a bunch of people. But we'll see.

Sort of an "outside looking in" concept? I'd like to hear that a lot.

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It's complicated when you first start learning it, and you do basically have to relearn the alphabet, but once you've got the idea down it's actually a lot easier than english

Of a sort, yes. I never would have chosen to develop any sort of dragon form if I hadn't come to know so many dragons.

Dragonne ↩️

Reply to: Sort of an "outside looking in" concept? I'd like to hear that a lot.

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We loved the book! Granted it's been a hot minute since we read it--the name all look pretty straight forward? Like Holly/Juniper/Snap. It doesn't really seem like we'd need help pronouncing those

Turtle/Moonwatcher 💚

It's complicated when you first start learning it, and you do basically have to relearn the alphabet, but once you've got the idea down it's actually a lot easier than english

I am pretty interested in learning it but idk if I ever will because it doesn't seem entirely practical to learn a language I'll likely never use but learning languages seems fun anyways ~~and also I think you being around's definitely made me more interested in learning it dixhzddjxh~~

Oh yeah it's mostly fine, there's just a few that you might struggle with if you're not sure how welsh works, like ynys for example Also, fair yeah djfhdj (edited)

Looking Ynys up- we were definitely saying that one wrong (edited)

Odo

I've been on the fence about this all Summit and it's a bit late now, but perhaps next Summit I will prepare something about my experiences becoming draconic. I still don't fully feel draconic the way many of you describe it, but I do identify as a dragon when I use my yinglong form. I probably won't present it, as I can barely front to play games let alone trying to talk to a bunch of people. But we'll see.

You could always make a presentation and prerecord you or someone else reading it

or have a text based panel maybe if that's easier?

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Oh, there's an idea. It would be easier to just prepare it, choose a time where we can fully get me in the front and read it, and not worry about any pressure or social difficulties. And then with it pre-recorded Drak can always "translate" for me if I can't front at the time of the actual panel.

Sephiroth/Seph°roteh (She/Her) ↩️

Reply to: You could always make a presentation and prerecord you or someone else reading it

Nova [☆] Dergs

We've got a phantom limb meditation we wrote a few years ago, that we love, but it's in serious need of a remaster--we're planning to present our shiny new version of that and probably another reading (Thinking of doing The Dragon of Ynys) at the next summit dragnpizza

what do you mean by phantom limb meditation? I've tried everything in hopes of inducing phantom limbs but it's done nothing and nobody seems to have any advice or ideas beyond very vague and unhelpful "the entire concept of meditation" or "concentrate?", so I'd be very excited about anything more in depth than that

I hate to tell you but some people just don't get them. Nothing can induce phantom limbs for me, for example, they just don't happen for me

Illia

what do you mean by phantom limb meditation? I've tried everything in hopes of inducing phantom limbs but it's done nothing and nobody seems to have any advice or ideas beyond very vague and unhelpful "the entire concept of meditation" or "concentrate?", so I'd be very excited about anything more in depth than that

Perhaps you could surround yourself with things or sounds that you associate with the shift you are trying to induce? As someone with ADHD I don't really meditate in the traditional sense for shifts

yeah, it's definitely disappointing to have had zero luck with phantom limbs. and meditation in general has always been a massive fail, often outright negative and upsetting if it's mental health focused, for me. so far most ideas on trying to reduce species dysphoria have been fails for me

Normal meditation techniques do not work for me. This seems to be a similar issue for you? If so, i learned a different type than the normal one from a Buddhist Temple my and my brother in law used to frequent. First, get comfortable, sitting up somehow. You dont need to dot he yoga pose, kneeling, etc. just sitting up and being comfortable works. At the temple, we did this in complete silence, but it's not a requirement, just usually more helpful than not. After you're set, instead to trying to clear you mind, like normal, instead try and seek acceptance. Open your mind, and let your thoughts, feelings, and sensations flow through you, unaided. However, do not "latch onto" any of these, do not focus on them. Just allow them to enter and leave at their whim. Once you feel like you're in control of that state (rather, not in control, pre se) direct your senses to an extreme of your body. Head, feet, etc. doesnt matter where you start. Do this "direction" in the same format as above, without control, allowing your mind to wander at whim. Just allow that part of your body to feel on it's own. Once you have, move up/down a little. Then again. Repeat until you've covered your whole body, piece by piece. I start from my head down, usually. However, i rarely get far, as this rapidly gets me to a point where i'm crossing over into my other half's consciousness, and i begin experiencing my homeworld around me.

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The first time i did this, it was almost funny. My train of thoughts were, starting from my scalp down: "Hmm... hair... scalp... horns... muzzle... mane... wait... what? ... ... mountain ranges? Obviously, mountains! Home!" (My other half, mid-flight towards the mountains, jolts mid-air, realizing i popped up for the first time. She then angles back, going the opposite direction.) "Ocean in the distance! ...wait... Ocean under me? When?! Ah, teleport! OOH!! DIVING! FISH!! yum! Home cave? NARLA?! Pregnant!! nuzzles!" (Narla, my youngest daughter.) After that, their timer bell rang to bring us out of meditation.

I deal with intrusive thoughts, so the idea of "clearing your mind" is...yeah, not gonna happen. my thoughts are always running and trying to direct or contain them, let alone stop, is like herding cats

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For me, phantom limbs have always just spontaneously happened. The first time I experienced phantom limbs was while drawing a dragon. My art was a gateway to me figuring out my draconity. I was trying to figure out how to draw wings folded, trying to see how it would look in my mind, and then suddenly without warning or intent, BAM! Phantom wings on my back, folded neatly just how I was trying to draw them in fact.

I'm jealous 〒▽〒

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I'm so incredibly tired but I also want to stay up ^^; I'm not draconic, Sephiroth went to rest but gnight, see you all next summit

Likewise, see you all in December-January, I'll definitely be in the Spire though

Oh right that exists /positive (edited)

Illia

I deal with intrusive thoughts, so the idea of "clearing your mind" is...yeah, not gonna happen. my thoughts are always running and trying to direct or contain them, let alone stop, is like herding cats

Yup! Lots of intrusive thoughts. Ironically i already use things like zen to control the general noise in my head well enough that my default state is fairly "quiet" internally. So "clearing my mind" tends towards the norm for me. Thus, i can't clear it for meditation. Trying only gives intrusive thoughts more leeway! So letting them run free was an excellent concept that helped me. Nobody else has ever described a meditation like that to me before.

Illia

I'm jealous 〒▽〒

When they're constant, however, it can become closer to a curse. I can't turn mineoff. So instead I've had to learn how to deal with them going through clothing, or chairs, etc.

maybe it’s just grass is greener, but it does bum me out that while physical tail, wings, horns, etc. are impossible that phantom are realistically possible…just not for me

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Since the Summit has more or less ended, I want to share my personal experience of the Summit and will crosspost it in here and on the Spire: On Friday I felt like I took a leap of faith off a cliff and found out I have wings. As I took flight and managed to climb higher, I found other dragons in the sky that caused my euphoria and draconic energy to increase. Time went on, I found myself floating above the clouds, gliding on the streams of the wind surrounded by other dragons and entering a state of shared energetic atmosphere. Despite not being able to attend a lot of the summit, I felt your presence, your energy. It kept me 'in the air' and gave me newly found respect, love and humility for the community. Now that I'm back at work I notice that I'm still 'in the sky'. I don't wish to land, but it impacted my energy levels and I need to make sure I can land back on the earth instead of crashing down because of (mental) exhaustion. Co-workers asked me if something happened over the weekend because I was visibly beaming this morning, but sadly I can't share my experience with them, thus why I write it here. You're all extremely uplifting and these past days have been a warm astral hug for my soul. I can't wait to keep in touch. dragnheart

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Same for me, I'm totally shifted the whole morning. Feel like walking on all fours, my tail straying left to right. (edited)

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Also, I've woken up with very few hours of sleep, but don't feel exhausted at all

And like you say, one has to watch out not to fall too fast, might lead to post con syndrome

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Illia

I'm jealous 〒▽〒

I think it's totally brave of you to be so open about it. I can imagine that some would not speak so openly about these supposedly "negative" feelings. What I can perhaps give you as a small "advice": Don't force it. Everything has its time and some things have to mature before they manifest in the energetic field. (edited)

Illia

I deal with intrusive thoughts, so the idea of "clearing your mind" is...yeah, not gonna happen. my thoughts are always running and trying to direct or contain them, let alone stop, is like herding cats

felt that, i get them almost every single day and sometimes they can even last the whole day.

I also have those... On bad days, it really pulls me down.

oh jeez if i was in this server around the time when i didn't have adel, i would not've been a fun person to be around

tbh, I really like your presence. To me it feels very pure somehow. Glad that you are here (edited)

huh

KinDD

tbh, I really like your presence. To me it feels very pure somehow. Glad that you are here (edited)

np

Hope that didn't offend you ^..^"

nono not at all! ~~i just found it ironic that my presence feels very pure~~

Pure silver dragnmlem

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Like "pure" you know, guess everyone has its own interpretation for this. But yeah, it is the closest I can get with this feeling

thanks for the encouragement, though to be honest most of my openness is less intentional confidence and more bumbling social ineptitude. I still remember once someone trying to be nice and thanking for me defusing a conflict they were too scared to confront when I, in fact, had absolutely no idea there was a conflict in the first place. I guess my greatest foil to social anxiety is obliviousness

KinDD

tbh, I really like your presence. To me it feels very pure somehow. Glad that you are here (edited)

a random question while i'm tired and about to go to bed, would you say it's like.. "revitalising"? in a way?

Kind of goes in that direction. It is really hard to describe feelings, where you don't have fitting words. Its like your presence feels to me like a calm sea or calm water. It is for sure deep and you don't know what lies in the depths, but by touching it, it feel like its, yeah pure in a way (always nice to explain a meaning with the same word that needs to be explained ^..^").

interesting.

Its just my way of perceiving others. I kind of remember how they feel to me, instead of how they look or what they do etc. I'm weird with this

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I think that’s a more beautiful way to remember someone than by physical features.

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anyways, i'mma go to bed now

sleep well!

Goodnight, have sweet dreams!

As the sun rises on a Monday, I would like to thank everyone for that weekend before the server closes. We'll see you around. :D

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Yeee, thank you all for a really lovely and fun weekend!

Yeah, thanks, I really needed something like this

me and my stepdad and uncle gonna out together a fence today

Illia

what do you mean by phantom limb meditation? I've tried everything in hopes of inducing phantom limbs but it's done nothing and nobody seems to have any advice or ideas beyond very vague and unhelpful "the entire concept of meditation" or "concentrate?", so I'd be very excited about anything more in depth than that

This is our original meditation. It's a body scan style one, but with a focus on phantom limbs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWeSqHfRWk

Ruffled Gryphon

Othercon Guided Meditation

We're about to lock the server, so if anyone has anything else to say before that happens, feel free to do so.

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@Turtle/Moonwatcher 💚 Thanks for letting me know about this, I definitely enjoyed it too

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Good morning everyderg! I'm so glad it seems to be a group phenomenon that we all are feeling this high from the con! I am also feeling it, like I'm soaring. It's glorious. I actually had trouble falling asleep last night because I was feeling so euphoric!

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Thank you so much for running the summit and thanks to everyone who came this spring! I’m looking forward to seeing everyone next summit!

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Drakmanka

Good morning everyderg! I'm so glad it seems to be a group phenomenon that we all are feeling this high from the con! I am also feeling it, like I'm soaring. It's glorious. I actually had trouble falling asleep last night because I was feeling so euphoric!

Same

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See u all next summit. And in the Spire

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What does a Dragon say, right before a Server closes? RAWR!

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